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Postby AndyC » Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:08 am

Does anyone have any links to videos or possibly some manuals that help to explain how small squads move/operate. I need them for the youth airsoft group I run. I would like to start showing the kids how to use teamwork while playing. Right now, the group is split into two small squads and they battle it out. It's really good that they are having fun and yet, hilarious because at the start of each round, they all scatter and it usually turns into a free for all. I am just looking for some very basic information I could use to help them see how a team should move, use cover and stay together. I have viewed a few vids on ytube but the production quality was really bad and I couldn't understand what they were doing...Brits or Scotts I think from the accents. Anyways, thanks.
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Postby RiotingCows » Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:18 pm

I found this, its a bit detailed but I scrolled through it and saw some things that might help you.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19883000/Infa ... ad-Tactics
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Postby Braddock » Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:23 pm

why not take them to an ATA training?
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Postby Ivan Daylovich™ » Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:30 pm

Remember: Airsoft tactics != Real world tactics.
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Postby AndyC » Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:28 pm

Braddock wrote:why not take them to an ATA training?

I would love to be able to take them to any type of training school but we do not have the funding or the means to travel at all.
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Postby Tanto » Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:02 pm

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Check out Trip' Tango, the youtube based airsoft tactics guide. http://www.youtube.com/user/TantoLL
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Postby sgo.ramirez » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:43 am

here is great manual for urban tactics:
http://cqb-team.com/tactical_trainer.php

I've also prepared myself manual strictly for ASG but unfortunately at this moment it is only in polish language:
http://www.sgo.gda.pl/forum/czarna-takt ... e74715b6ab
google translator might help.
My friend from USA which is native speaker here in Poland will help me to translate it and I will post it somewhere at AP so stay tune;) In first place we will post something at "buddy team" level. I hope it will be usefull.
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Re: Help with tactics

Postby DJ » Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:14 am

AndyC wrote:Does anyone have any links to videos or possibly some manuals that help to explain how small squads move/operate. I need them for the youth airsoft group I run. I would like to start showing the kids how to use teamwork while playing. Right now, the group is split into two small squads and they battle it out. It's really good that they are having fun and yet, hilarious because at the start of each round, they all scatter and it usually turns into a free for all. I am just looking for some very basic information I could use to help them see how a team should move, use cover and stay together. I have viewed a few vids on ytube but the production quality was really bad and I couldn't understand what they were doing...Brits or Scotts I think from the accents. Anyways, thanks.


First question, how old are the kids. If you make it too complex or demanding you will loose middle school and younger ( development level), what kind of tactics Law enforcement ( SWAT) or military?
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Postby Steve » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:34 pm

Have a movie night every so often. Watch Blackhawk Down and Tears of the Sun for outdoors, and SWAT for indoors.

They aren't necessarily great training tools, but all of them showcase small groups working together.

For the training part of it, take some chunks of plywood, spraypaint silhouettes onto them, and practice running drills shooting at the plywood. Having people shoot back just screws with the training program early on. Concentrate on moving slowly, mastering the basics, and move on to the advanced stuff later.

Drop me a PM if you have questions. I figure I could probably point you in the right direction to put together a training program.
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Postby AndyC » Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:25 pm

Sorry for the late reply. - These are middle school kids. 10-15. We basically run three two-man teams then we change it up to two three-man teams. These kids need to learn how to move and stay down, cover each other and in a fire fight, don't take off screaming and leave your buddy in the hotzone(kind of hilarious to watch though). I just need to keep it really basic and simple. These kids have no attention span....Thanks.
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Postby DJ » Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:41 pm

AndyC wrote:Sorry for the late reply. - These are middle school kids. 10-15. We basically run three two-man teams then we change it up to two three-man teams. These kids need to learn how to move and stay down, cover each other and in a fire fight, don't take off screaming and leave your buddy in the hotzone(kind of hilarious to watch though). I just need to keep it really basic and simple. These kids have no attention span....Thanks.


You are absolutely right re the attention span with this age kids. Keeping it fun and simple is the way to go. If you make it serious and complicated ( repetitious) they will head for their Gameboys. I will look up some of my stuff re basic cover and concealment and you can see if it is acceptable for this level.
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Postby AndyC » Thu Jun 09, 2011 7:37 pm

Thanks DJ. Anything basic or that can be simplified will be a big help.
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Postby Patrick750 » Thu Jun 09, 2011 9:23 pm

RiotingCows wrote:I found this, its a bit detailed but I scrolled through it and saw some things that might help you.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/19883000/Infa ... ad-Tactics


Do you know how to print this? After the first couple pages it my printer started spewing blank pages...it wont let me download it either
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Postby AndyC » Thu Jun 09, 2011 10:10 pm

You need to be a member to download it I believe. I scrolled through it a bit and it's way too complex for the group of kids I am working with. I did watch Tanto's videos and while really good(especially the suppressive fire one), a bit too deep for my group. Still, good job Tanto. I got your idea.
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