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Postby Chesty_01 » Thu May 13, 2010 9:51 pm

Now by restrictions I don't mean anything that has anything to do with safety.

By restrictions I mean, Magazine capacities, Uniform requirements, gun and loadout requirements. Now I haven't been involved with airsoft for very long, so I am just curious. Is it because you guys have played the run and gun game so long, that its boring now and you need something different, or is it that you want to limit the amount of attendees, or weed out the hackers, or what. Please do explain.
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Postby Geschutz » Thu May 13, 2010 9:59 pm

Trigger dicipline, not as much run and gun.
People do not complain so much at games with such restrictions.
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Postby Archangel 06 » Thu May 13, 2010 10:10 pm

Nasty wrote:Wasn't there a thread exactly like this last week?


Almost exactly...http://airsoftpacific.com/viewtopic.php?t=31236
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Postby G36 FTW » Thu May 13, 2010 10:45 pm

Nasty wrote:Wasn't there a thread exactly like this last week?


There was actually two of 'em

http://airsoftpacific.com/viewtopic.php?t=31236
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http://www.airsoftpacific.com/viewtopic.php?t=31198
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Postby Chesty_01 » Fri May 14, 2010 2:21 am

Geschutz wrote:Trigger dicipline, not as much run and gun.
People do not complain so much at games with such restrictions.


Good Point!!!

I am wondering what opinions there are as to why, you specifically like restrictions at events and games.
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Postby Munky » Fri May 14, 2010 3:03 am

Because most of us who play are into it for the fact its more realistic. If I wanted to be in tie-die with a neon gun and spraying anything that looked like it needed it, I'd play paintball. But fact of the matter is in our community we believe in honor and we want to pay homage to the men and women that serve various countries in various uniforms. They do something the vast majority of us simply can not.

Although as a personal note, I refuse to set a loadout directly emulating an active military because i feel i have not earned it. I have a full set of woodland BDU's but raely have I worn them together. more often than not I wear plain blue jeans and a black shirt with OD gearing because I don't want to disrespect the people that have sweated and bled for where they are.

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Postby Steve » Fri May 14, 2010 7:34 am

It cuts down on the jackasses. Having restrictions limits play to the folks who are willing to go out of their way to comply with the game requirements. If the players have more mentally invested in the event by going out of their way to 'do it right', my experience has been that it is a more enjoyable event for everyone.
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Postby chapped » Fri May 14, 2010 8:32 am

Steve wrote:It cuts down on the jackasses. Having restrictions limits play to the folks who are willing to go out of their way to comply with the game requirements. If the players have more mentally invested in the event by going out of their way to 'do it right', my experience has been that it is a more enjoyable event for everyone.
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Postby Nocte » Fri May 14, 2010 12:36 pm

More complex games are more enjoyable.
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Postby Cap n pickles » Fri May 14, 2010 12:39 pm

Nocte wrote:More complex games are more enjoyable.


Agreed.
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Postby Matt » Fri May 14, 2010 2:22 pm

1) Ease of target identification both at the event and on video. With limited uniforms, you know who is who and what is going on.

2) Limiting ammo or mag types makes force multiplier weapons like the SAW and the Sniper Rifle more effective on the field.

3) Knowing the other players have a vested interest in the game and it's outcome. If they purchased gear or made sure to have the right stuff, it shows they care about the event and will do what's necessary to attend.

4) A heightened sense of immersion. When people around you have the correct gear, they match and they know their role = this makes it a more enjoyable experience for everyone. Would you want to be cast as an actor in a Vietnam movie where the US Soldiers all use M4A1s? Of course not, that would be stupid, it would cheapen the movie and the experience. Why not play Airsoft with the same mentality?

I think you also make a good point that many of us have been playing this game for years. At least 9 for me. I suppose that does make the same old games not very exciting. A pickup game with a bunch of kids in jeans and tennis shoes with a gaggle of random AEGs behind a housing development in some trees is not fun anymore. Been there and done that when I was a newb. It was time to graduate to something else.

You also notice that at some of the OPs. A lot of the people attending them have been playing in this community 3 years or less, you lose the veteran players who have been around for 8-9 years because nothing new ever happens. Maybe organized events with restrictions are also an escape from that.
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Postby Braddock » Fri May 14, 2010 2:37 pm

yeah. same old regurgitated shit.
pay $40 for a glorified skirm...
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Postby k3gn3123512 » Fri May 14, 2010 4:38 pm

Munky wrote:
Although as a personal note, I refuse to set a loadout directly emulating an active military because i feel i have not earned it. I have a full set of woodland BDU's but raely have I worn them together. more often than not I wear plain blue jeans and a black shirt with OD gearing because I don't want to disrespect the people that have sweated and bled for where they are.

My 2 cents


That only applies to military patches. Uniforms are not anywhere as equivalent to that. I wouldn't feel guilty for playing in a soldiers uniform but I would feel guilty for doing so wearing their patches.
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Postby chapped » Fri May 14, 2010 6:04 pm

You mean we aren't supposed to beat the homeless???
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Postby Chesty_01 » Fri May 14, 2010 8:03 pm

Matt wrote:1) Ease of target identification both at the event and on video. With limited uniforms, you know who is who and what is going on.

2) Limiting ammo or mag types makes force multiplier weapons like the SAW and the Sniper Rifle more effective on the field.

3) Knowing the other players have a vested interest in the game and it's outcome. If they purchased gear or made sure to have the right stuff, it shows they care about the event and will do what's necessary to attend.

4) A heightened sense of immersion. When people around you have the correct gear, they match and they know their role = this makes it a more enjoyable experience for everyone. Would you want to be cast as an actor in a Vietnam movie where the US Soldiers all use M4A1s? Of course not, that would be stupid, it would cheapen the movie and the experience. Why not play Airsoft with the same mentality?

I think you also make a good point that many of us have been playing this game for years. At least 9 for me. I suppose that does make the same old games not very exciting. A pickup game with a bunch of kids in jeans and tennis shoes with a gaggle of random AEGs behind a housing development in some trees is not fun anymore. Been there and done that when I was a newb. It was time to graduate to something else.

You also notice that at some of the OPs. A lot of the people attending them have been playing in this community 3 years or less, you lose the veteran players who have been around for 8-9 years because nothing new ever happens. Maybe organized events with restrictions are also an escape from that.


You explained this perfectly!! Thank you for your insight.
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