SniperzDen Campsite

[book42]

An opinion: I believe in forgiveness if the party has the courage to be men & accept responsibility for their wrongdoing -- give them until the weekend to come forth with a public apology & discuss the opportunity to pay restitution to Sniperzden & SPECDET as well as those who cleaned up the mess. This can be done with service time, financial compensation, or other creative means of righting the wrong. If not, release identity & ban them accordingly.

This mess is a chance for the PNW airsoft community to demonstrate professionalism. WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE: Please help legitimize the sport by acting like adults as opposed to reinforcing the negative public perception we have to constantly fight.

Well said. And I concur.

[Jewish Ninja]

Next year we should have assigned camp site. Each row being a letter and numbers are for the clear area down each row. Might be worth checking into so if there is ANY damage or anything you know who camped there.

I've considered assigned campsites. But honestly, the trash situation this year was better than years past, as a whole. It's always a problem, and all we can do is emphasize how important it is to respect the property, the environment, and the hosts. It takes a TON of work, from people who have jobs and families, to put an event like Summer Slaughter on. Assigning campsites, while I like the idea, simply isn't feasible, IMO. Mapping out, cordoning off the entire area, dealing with getting people to their area, people being forced to park at long distances from their assigned sites, policing that people are in the correct area, people sticking their garbage in others sites that leave early, people being forced to camp next to people they don't know or don't like, etc,etc. We want people to come and have a good time, and not be forced into something because of the actions of a few. I'm not speaking for my entire team, this is just my opinion on the matter.

I agree with Shorty's thoughts on the issue.

I think that next year, we'll walk through the camp areas more often, and ask people that don't have an obvious trash bag where it is/give them one. The trash was much better this year, but we still had to make a dump run. I'm sure I am dreaming in thinking we'll never have to make a dump run, but that's probably not true.

[ClownBaby]

How about two complementary garbage bags with your paid entry?

[Pacman]

How about someone holding their tool whilst they piss too?

[ClownBaby]

That would be unsanitary.

[SPECDET1]

How about two complementary garbage bags with your paid entry?

It was made clear multiple times from the get go to bring your own trash bags.

[Nark]

That would be unsanitary.

not if you're wearing gloves.

[Shortbu]

How about someone holding their tool whilst they piss too?

rofl,while concurring. Well played Robb!

[ClownBaby]

If they received bags upon payment, then there's no excuse for why they shouldn't be cleaning up their garbage.

[Jester316]

If they received bags upon payment, then there's no excuse for why they shouldn't be cleaning up their garbage.

There was no excuse for them to not clean up now...

[G00SE770]

It's too bad people can't clean up after themselves. I'd be glad to help out on the clean up next year.

[McNair]

Giving out bags doesn't make a difference. Two years ago a group was handed trash bags and still left their shit laying around.

The problem is the new generation of coddled children. THey expect mom is going to come clean up after them. Though, I do remember a few years ago a mother driving up, then emptying trash out of her van and we had to yell at her. Shitbirds.

[Junto]

It takes a TON of work, from people who have jobs and families, to put an event like Summer Slaughter on. Assigning campsites, while I like the idea, simply isn't feasible, IMO. Mapping out, cordoning off the entire area, dealing with getting people to their area, people being forced to park at long distances from their assigned sites, policing that people are in the correct area, people sticking their garbage in others sites that leave early, people being forced to camp next to people they don't know or don't like, etc,etc. We want people to come and have a good time, and not be forced into something because of the actions of a few. I'm not speaking for my entire team, this is just my opinion on the matter.

Yeah, those were my concerns. Game hosting is already a logistical nightmare.

[ClownBaby]

Would maybe surveyors tape, running off the trees, kinda like office cubicles work?

[Jewish Ninja]

Would maybe surveyors tape, running off the trees, kinda like office cubicles work?

That would just generate more mess. Dealing with sectioning off, and assigning spots is more hassle than it's really worth. What happens with no shows? What about people that got there the day before, but were late to sign up, so they are further back?

People need to treat camping at a game like camping at a National Park. You wouldn't leave your Pringles cans and other shit all over in the woods. Camping at an airsoft event should be no different. Individual accountability is the lesson here. Not forced rules.