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Has anyone heard of Black Ops or Bear river international

Postby celtic33 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:05 am

I have recently have gotten a M4 for my birthday, and then a 1911 for Christmas, and I was wounding has anyone heard of this company? if you have, can you tell me if there are any main problems that I should be on the look for? Thanks :D
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Postby Tork » Wed Jan 08, 2014 12:33 am

It's a Big 5 Sporting Goods Store replica. Basically its cheap like a CYMA/WELL/JG.

Also, check your grammar before you post. I've heard that the people around here are rhetoric masterminds. Might want to ditch the Call of Duty quote as well in case they think of you to be one of "them" :lol:
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Postby celtic33 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:34 pm

Thanks for the information... and what's wrong with Call Of Duty?
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Re: Has anyone heard of Black Ops or Bear river internationa

Postby RedSpo0n » Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:34 am

The BlackOps/Bear River Walmart M4 has been identified as an APS M4 on various forums online, and the 1911 'scorpion' Co2 Gbb is rumored to be based around the WE P14. I've handled both in person - the M4 is entry level but ok - nothing to write home about and it's durability is still 'being tested'. My dad got one for Christmas last year and it's going strong so far. =p

The 1911, I own one and I can tell you a few things.

It will fit any other WE 'Hi-cappa' slide of correct length to function. KJW Hi-Cappa CO2 Mags FIT and feed BBs when cycled by hand - but the release valve seems to be recessed more than the original mag so they will not cycle properly, releasing only a tiny amount of gas. It did fit and cycle a WE Hi-cappa Grean-gas mag (with Propane) borrowed from a teammate, just to see if it would work.

Lots of recoil. Like, could use a stronger recoil spring to bring it under control so you don't break something strong.
Don't bother using the threaded orange muzzle. It will snap the threads off in a few cycles. (To remove the rest of it, I ended up torching the plastic until it got soft enough to just yank out with some pliers)

FPS with a 20g BB in roughly 75 degree weather was 385ish - not CQB/Sidearm safe - but it's got decent hop up.
Once set well I was comfortable using it as a mid-range plinker, but I wouldn't want to carry it in a game without an additional CQB safe sidearm if I knew I would be in CQB range... which defeats the purpose, really.

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In the cold of winter, it was shooting roughly 310fps and cycled for a full mag when my P226 wouldn't even begin to try.
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Postby Cameron Zombie » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:32 pm

Tork wrote:Call of Duty quote

What CoD quote? I only see a Fallout quote.
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Re: Has anyone heard of Black Ops or Bear river internationa

Postby celtic33 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:54 pm

RedSpo0n wrote:It did fit and cycle a WE Hi-cappa Grean-gas mag (with Propane) borrowed from a teammate, just to see if it would work.


Did it work? i'm kinda curious now.
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Re: Has anyone heard of Black Ops or Bear river internationa

Postby Matt » Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:13 pm

Tork wrote:Might want to ditch the Call of Duty quote as well in case they think of you to be one of "them" :lol:


Nonsense! This forum was founded by a gamer. People who don't like video game quotes can go eat a tool. Although, I can't stand those new-fangled console shooters. Bleh... PC gaming is where it's at :)
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Postby nedmac » Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:47 pm

Thanks for the new signature!
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Re: Has anyone heard of Black Ops or Bear river internationa

Postby Tork » Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:49 pm

Matt wrote:
Tork wrote:Might want to ditch the Call of Duty quote as well in case they think of you to be one of "them" :lol:


Nonsense! This forum was founded by a gamer. People who don't like video game quotes can go eat a tool. Although, I can't stand those new-fangled console shooters. Bleh... PC gaming is where it's at :)


Come at me bro! :D real men don't need silly video games. They fight wars, build bridges, and go to space. Call of duty has no place in any of those!

Also, Battlefield 4.

I don't trust any Walmart brands because in my experience I have broke two cosmetically during a game. Both times when I was laying down return fire. But these if heard are new models and have more durability than previous ones
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Re: Has anyone heard of Black Ops or Bear river internationa

Postby RedSpo0n » Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:16 am

celtic33 wrote:
RedSpo0n wrote:It did fit and cycle a WE Hi-cappa Grean-gas mag (with Propane) borrowed from a teammate, just to see if it would work.


Did it work? i'm kinda curious now.


Yes. Yes it did.

As for overall durability, I can't say I've had any problems with the GBB yet, but I have put MAYBE 100 BBs through it so far? My Dad has been running the M4 for just over a year with no issues. Granted it only shoots like 300fps with a pretty sad ROF from the included battery, but 'meh' performance that is trouble free is still trouble free.
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Re: Has anyone heard of Black Ops or Bear river internationa

Postby Jewish Ninja » Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:05 am

Tork wrote:
Matt wrote:
Tork wrote:Might want to ditch the Call of Duty quote as well in case they think of you to be one of "them" :lol:


Nonsense! This forum was founded by a gamer. People who don't like video game quotes can go eat a tool. Although, I can't stand those new-fangled console shooters. Bleh... PC gaming is where it's at :)


Come at me bro! :D real men don't need silly video games. They fight wars, build bridges, and go to space. Call of duty has no place in any of those!

Also, Battlefield 4.

I don't trust any Walmart brands because in my experience I have broke two cosmetically during a game. Both times when I was laying down return fire. But these if heard are new models and have more durability than previous ones



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Re: Has anyone heard of Black Ops or Bear river internationa

Postby celtic33 » Fri Jan 10, 2014 1:18 am

My bad Red spoon, I must of missed that when I was reading :shock:
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Re: Has anyone heard of Black Ops or Bear river internationa

Postby RedSpo0n » Fri Jan 10, 2014 7:34 pm

Just Razzin' Man - It's all good. =p


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Postby Airsoftee » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:18 am

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Re: Has anyone heard of Black Ops or Bear river internationa

Postby Hamster » Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:20 pm

thread has been derailed

wat do.

i was raised on RunEscape and that grand theft auto shit when I was seven or something.

back to original post, quick google search, came up with walmart, equaling sub-par. But birthday, so thought that counts. Lend it to people to break.

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