Sniperzden - BIO Ammo Part 2

[pulsipher]

If you can't afford to play airsoft, then you probably shouldn't be playing airsoft.

SIg'ed

[code789]

there's no need to be mad at ogre because he can sort out his priorities and you can't

[TheAirsoftSaint]

You know its funny how many people are bitching about a five. Get over it. If you cant afford to go to a game and blow $100+ out of your a$$ then don't go to that game. There will be other games contrary to popular believe...

I haven't been to one game yet because I cant afford it at the time, so I don't go. Not many people are made of money. The money I make gets spent on my kid. Which in turn means I rarely have a chance to go play a game, but by the time that rolls around I'm to late to sign up.

[ogrejager]

Don't be a douchebag just because you can.

Is this a challenge? Oh good, it's been a while since a kid has started something.

[Transition]

I think it was! FIGHT FIGHT

[Ivan Daylovich™]

Jesus Christ people, if you don't like it don't play. Don't complain about what you don't like either. Just don't show up to the game. The event organizers aren't gonna care if you don't go, and sure as hell don't wanna hear what you want. I can't think of one event organizer that hosts games to make you little bitches happy, so why would they care what you have to say?

[TheAirsoftSaint]

Jesus Christ people, if you don't like it don't play. Don't complain about what you don't like either. Just don't show up to the game. The event organizers aren't gonna care if you don't go, and sure as hell don't wanna hear what you want. I can't think of one event organizer that hosts games to make you little bitches happy, so why would they care what you have to say?

Amen

[Riddick]

Jesus Christ people, if you don't like it don't play. Don't complain about what you don't like either. Just don't show up to the game. The event organizers aren't gonna care if you don't go, and sure as hell don't wanna hear what you want. I can't think of one event organizer that hosts games to make you little bitches happy, so why would they care what you have to say?

I obviously care. So don't lump me into your statement please. Hosting is a business for me, so my comments below reflect that but I will add that as a people pleaser that I continually strive to be, I feel a sense of accomplishment when people enjoy my product and really take it to heart when they don't. I don't like unsatisfied players.

I care if you don't go. As a supplier of a product that earns me money I certainly care. Less players equals less money. Plus it says something about you product when many people sign up and go and continually support you like many have here.

I care about what you want in the way of suggestions for a better product because if those suggestions make a better product that I supply then that makes happy customers which makes you feel good because you are supplying a better product.

The field ammo will be coming back next year and will not be reverting again.

I believe I have eased the concerns/issues to the best of my abilities with what I have promoted for next year.

I believe that if you offer a product to a community, you can't be closed minded or closed off to them however there are many times I'd rather do the opposite with some of the bickering and comments I see at times.

Ultimately though they are right in the sense that if you don't like, don't come but I hope that's not the case.

[Darius137]

+1 to Riddick's post and -1 to Ivan's. This isn't a bitching post but bringing up valid arguments and trying to find an affordable solution for people that can't afford that extra $5 per week because we need that money to buy PenCott.

[Ivan Daylovich™]

Thought you two would catch the sarcasm of that statement. I was trying to make fun of the people who keep saying "if you don't like it, don't go."

I thought the "Event organizers don't care about players" was a dead give away. EVERY event organizers wants to put on a good game and have happy players. Hosts want to hear what players would like to see in games. We like the feedback.

[Riddick]

I thought it was ivan but wasnt quite sure. Figured i would just throw it out there anyways

[Orwell]

I just want to say, i really appreciate the level of discourse with you Riddick. People are saying a lot of negative things about the arguments Dan and Ivan and I etc. are making, but of all the people who've tried to refute or challenge our points you and a select few have spoken like adults. I really appreciate it.

Look, y'all, this doesn't need to be angry and personal. I think this topic is exhausted. The logic is running out, the new points are gone, and all that remains is vitriol and childishness. I think this topic could use locking.

[TheAirsoftSaint]

Probably, but people will still complain. Its what people do.

[spazgar]

I think the price change may suck but if it's what Rick has to do to maintain the field to stay open then oh well. I may not have been to any events in the NW but I have been to a few games/events in Southern California and plan on starting up in July. There are always going to be problems and what not in airsoft. Rick you seem like you do a lot for the field and the hobby. Good on you. Wish I had more time and was a little closer cause I would be more than willing to help out in any way possible.

So off topic but are the ones that are all Agro on the forum, really tuff and BA in person? Just asking cause if so I wouldn't want to upset someone at an event/game. I'm not a tool or anything but I'll make sure you know I don't like you in person and not talk shit over the internet. Kinda like telephone tough guys.