Safety Kills

[Rogue Reaper]

I have called safety kill ONCE. Crack house. I was on the top floor looking out the window and had a clear line shot at the top of a dudes head. Bare nore helmet, I called Safety in my big boy voice. the only thing he said was " thank you" and walked to the spawn.

That being said, While admining a game I took this video. I saw it comming so I took out my camera, I consider this a propper safety kill as it would suck to get railed in the back at that range. Both players were great sports.

[Ivan Daylovich™]

Honestly, in that situation a single round in the back of the vest would work as well.

[Jeep]

We eliminated safety kill from our rules set EXCEPT for the situation shown in that video. There are just to many players that think they are playing call of duty now and do some really stupid things for "knife kills" it causes to many unsafe situations which violate minimum safe engagement distances based on velocity. Now both players eliminate them selves from play and respawn.

[Evil Zergling137]

Bolt safety kills are a must

bigred is completely wrong. You can't safety kill with a bolt. you are just too far away. there is a very large distance between where you could safety kill and where you would be far enough away to fire the bolt. So under the 60 feet you must use an alternative, and you would never need to safety kill with the alternate. why do I feel like I wrote this post already?

[Ivan Daylovich™]

Both are wrong. You can't safety kill with a bolt just inside the minimum engagement distance, but point blank is kosher. Also secondaries are just required to be under 400 as far as I know.

[Throwdown]

I have not been out yet but when i read the rules it kind of sounded like it is more of a safety thing then a tool that you would use as a weapon.

[Raging Hormann]

You can't safety kill with a bolt just inside the minimum engagement distance, but point blank is kosher. Also secondaries are just required to be under 400 as far as I know.

Exactly what I was referring to.

[GuyWithAGun]

"Safety kill" should be synonymos with "surrender"

not obligatory, but recommended in some cases.

[Ivan Daylovich™]

Does anyone remember what the point of a safety kill is anymore?

[Lukens]

I dont like safety kills as much as the next guy, but they do sometimes have a purpose. Like at the game in silverton.

I was walking through the woods on the enemies side, trying to get up behind them. I was getting into a position where i could see all of them, till I heard something snap. I look behind me, and theres a guy covered by the bushes except for his rifle about 6 ft away. He lit my a$$ up like it was christmas. A safety kill would have been nice and saved my butt from pain lol

[Numinak]

The Groups I play with in the Seattle area have Safety Kills for a 'dead to rights' situation. You come upon someone and have them dead to rights but under minimum engagement distance, then you can Safety Kill. Anything else is a Parley, and the two parties retreat to minimum distances to either duke it out or continue running.

Yes, it requires a degree of honor, but so far we haven't had many issues with it.

[Matt]

The Safety Kill is supposed to be a "dead to rights" thing. We have established that. Extremely close shot on somebody you would definitely NOT miss who has no idea you are there. Anybody using safety kills any other way is doing it wrong. Any event host who is explaining it differently is doing it wrong.

Surrender is an old paintball rule, and it implies "optional" because in most cases it's surrender or die. Safety Kills are supposed to be mandatory. Ignoring a safety kill is like ignoring a hit.

[Orwell]

Surrender is an old paintball rule, and it implies "optional" because in most cases it's surrender or die. Safety Kills are supposed to be mandatory. Ignoring a safety kill is like ignoring a hit.

Given all the utter bull that I hear about this, I'd suggest we revise the rules.

Move to the "surrender!" option. Give your target either a) five seconds from the time he sees you (makes eye contact) or b) until he turns his weapon on you, finger on the trigger, before you fire.

That gives the target being safety killed a clear opportunity to respect the safety kill. It also gives them a chance to learn they're not the terminator. Frankly, given how gung ho the airsoft community is, I'm surprised the safety kill exists. It's more complexity for the ability to deny a pellet at ten feet.

[Transition]

no, it works fine now, just teach the idiots how to properly use it, dont want to teach them? dont show up to the games they do.

[Matt]

The point of the safety kill is to reduce injuries. This is why it's mandatory to honor one if you are safety killed. The way that you have explained it already the way it works. If somebody who was just safety killed goes to lift their weapon, instead of calling themselves out, they're going to get shot. But we don't want to encourage defiance of safety kills by moving to a surrender system, that defeats the purpose of safety.