STF 571 recruitment in Eugene.

[Pacman]

Way to air your dirty laundry

[Captain Fox]

Way to air your dirty laundry

Nitpick all you want pacman, i had to make the crappy call and I did it, ya troll. You think I want other people to have to deal with something like that? No, so here i am giving people fair warning. You wanna call it airing dirty laundry, grow up and quit reading the thread. I'm not gonna sit idly by and let him intimidate people by threatening them.

[God]

In other words, he kicked one of the only people who thinks for himself. Smart. I find getting rid of people who give me ideas(that ended up being adopted in a variation) very effective.{sarcasm}

In the end, I am very glad I am out of STF. After trying to like the time there, it just wasn't working. "Fox" can say he gave me the boot all he wanted, but I think we both knew this was inevitable. At the beginning, there were issues.

As for new recruits, unless something has changed or changes soon, prepare to be ordered around, sometimes(not too often, but common) sworn at, and possibly harassed(definably bullied) by other members with no effective "higher-ups' " interference. The last one is a lot of the reason that I am done with their team.

Also, one thing that really bothered me, was the lack of attendance. Even Fox can not deny I tried to show up and generally did without a reasonable reason to show up to games. Although, the last few games, most of STF(either due to lack of communication, will to show, or just plain being busy), there were next to no show-ups.

That being said... STF is fine if you can ignore all the above, be a sheep, and well, be a sheep..
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Lastly, for my "threatening", my threat was merely a repeat of the castle law(that OREGON doesn't have really... Phrased in legal terms below). It was:~Break in to my house or go in without permission carrying a weapon(how do I know it's fake? Sure as hell seems threatening to me.), I will point a gun* at you. ~That was to the member who was bullying me on the homepage, which neither "leaders" did anything EFFECTIVE to stop.

*Legally, Oregon is a retard state that says:


161.219 Limitations on use of deadly physical force in defense of a person. Notwithstanding the provisions of ORS 161.209, a person is not justified in using deadly physical force upon another person unless the person reasonably believes that the other person is:
(1) Committing or attempting to commit a felony involving the use or threatened imminent use of physical force against a person; or
(2) Committing or attempting to commit a burglary in a dwelling; or
(3) Using or about to use unlawful deadly physical force against a person. [1971 c.743 §23]

So despite their interpretation, I have/had no reason nor right(okay, most smart states say I do, but whatever, mine doesn't) to shoot, but I am more than sure the threat is fine if my house is being broken in by a known unfriendly carrying an AK 47 or M14.

[Pacman]

You can call me a troll or anything else you like but the simple fact is your throwing this on AP draws negative attention and will turn off a lot of people. It should have stayed on your private forum. If your trying to smear someone its usually best not to use your recruitment thread if you want to attract quality players. You'll find there's times in life its better to take action and move forward instead of dwelling on the negative.
Take it however you want

[DJ]

The Drama Llama disproves!

You had better go and research the "castle doctrine" and case law before you implement that plan dude.

[Riddick]

[Seahawk]

ah, witnessing the death of another teen team, so wonderful to watch. *grabs popcorn and soda*

[Captain Fox]

In other words, he kicked one of the only people who thinks for himself. Smart. I find getting rid of people who give me ideas(that ended up being adopted in a variation) very effective.{sarcasm}

In the end, I am very glad I am out of STF. After trying to like the time there, it just wasn't working. "Fox" can say he gave me the boot all he wanted, but I think we both knew this was inevitable. At the beginning, there were issues.

As for new recruits, unless something has changed or changes soon, prepare to be ordered around, sometimes(not too often, but common) sworn at, and possibly harassed(definably bullied) by other members with no effective "higher-ups' " interference. The last one is a lot of the reason that I am done with their team.

Also, one thing that really bothered me, was the lack of attendance. Even Fox can not deny I tried to show up and generally did without a reasonable reason to show up to games. Although, the last few games, most of STF(either due to lack of communication, will to show, or just plain being busy), there were next to no show-ups.

That being said... STF is fine if you can ignore all the above, be a sheep, and well, be a sheep..
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Lastly, for my "threatening", my threat was merely a repeat of the castle law(that OREGON doesn't have really... Phrased in legal terms below). It was:~Break in to my house or go in without permission carrying a weapon(how do I know it's fake? Sure as hell seems threatening to me.), I will point a gun* at you. ~That was to the member who was bullying me on the homepage, which neither "leaders" did anything EFFECTIVE to stop.

*Legally, Oregon is a retard state that says:


161.219 Limitations on use of deadly physical force in defense of a person. Notwithstanding the provisions of ORS 161.209, a person is not justified in using deadly physical force upon another person unless the person reasonably believes that the other person is:
(1) Committing or attempting to commit a felony involving the use or threatened imminent use of physical force against a person; or
(2) Committing or attempting to commit a burglary in a dwelling; or
(3) Using or about to use unlawful deadly physical force against a person. [1971 c.743 §23]

So despite their interpretation, I have/had no reason nor right(okay, most smart states say I do, but whatever, mine doesn't) to shoot, but I am more than sure the threat is fine if my house is being broken in by a known unfriendly carrying an AK 47 or M14.

This statement has been reported for the fact that it is purely intended to hinder my recruitment.

[Captain Fox]

ah, witnessing the death of another teen team, so wonderful to watch. *grabs popcorn and soda*

Strange...still here...still have 8 members active...and three on vacation...huh...

-STF571 is a subsidiary of a larger team. A division, if you will. Our operating area is just a little different. To slightly adapt what Darius137 said about my team, "if you don't like whats going on, then dont read it."-

And my team ain't goin nowhere. We're staying here, we like airsoft of course, Riddick is right, DRAMA LLAMA!!!!

Lets agree- my team is WEIRD and WEIRD things happen and DRAMA happens a lot. I'll make you guys a deal- i'll leave my drama and my drama llama on my own website, so y'all dont have to deal with it, if you would, purdy please, stop hazing my team x3 (that may be the wrong phrase but you get my point.)

[Captain Fox]

You can call me a troll or anything else you like but the simple fact is your throwing this on AP draws negative attention and will turn off a lot of people. It should have stayed on your private forum. If your trying to smear someone its usually best not to use your recruitment thread if you want to attract quality players. You'll find there's times in life its better to take action and move forward instead of dwelling on the negative.
Take it however you want

Pacman, I apologize, thanks for your wisdom :3

[Captain Fox]

Hey Malik- i think your missing this specific fact-

You didnt leave, we threw you out. So stop pointing the fingers at us and consider what you've done wrong yourself, spoiled rich kid.

[God]

Wow, quadruple post. Classy.

[Captain Fox]

Well i was trying to reply but i dont know how to put multiple quotes in one post, otherwise id have only done one :/ my life doesnt revolve around the internet, i dont have time to learn that stuff when i work 7 days a week.

Btw, cheshire cat? Hell yes.

[God]

Water truck drivers work 7 days a week? That sucks... Lucky that you at least found a job in this bloody economy>.<

[PanzerFaust]

take your inane drivel to PM's.