A possible mock simulation of Operation: Neptune's Spear ?

[Junto]

.....Annnnnd enter leftist liberal.

Understand this: in no possible way could anyone construe Osama bin Laden's continuing to live as a positive thing. Thus, his death is a good thing. This creature was a blight on the American pysche for 10 years. His death should be celebrated evey year with parades, fireworks and remembrance of the dead of Sept 11.


Nasty-hopefully we can fit something in in november, preferably after I get back.

Excuse me? You don't know me, or my political beliefs. As a human bleeding being I don't find reenacting the death of another, real human being to be a source of entertainment. I never said him being dead was bad. Bin Laden being dead is pretty bleeding fabulous, I just think that real death as entertainment should have died when the Vandals sacked Rome. Let the dead lie.

It's not about being "the better man". It's about not being a gaggle of crass, media-saturated children who play too much CoD. Reenacting an assassination is grim, at best, and I don't like the way it could reflect on our community if we had a "Who can kill Bin Laden the fastest" game or whatever format people want it in.

When you go out and airsoft you are basically acting out the cold blooded killing of your friends, so I don't see how it would be much worse reenacting the death of Osama.

Shooting your buddies and killing the bad guys, airsoft style, is nothing like reenacting the death of an actual human being. That breaks from the frame of it being a game. A number of years ago, a game company wanted to come out with a simulation of the Kennedy assassination under the guise of historical posterity. Really, it was a grim, disgusting excuse to shoot a former President in the head for shits and giggles. Pretending to put 2 in Bin Laden's head sickens me just as much because he was an actual human being. You're taking the game out of the game into some very grey territory, morally.

[Russkie]

Shooting your buddies and killing the bad guys, airsoft style, is nothing like reenacting the death of an actual human being. That breaks from the frame of it being a game. A number of years ago, a game company wanted to come out with a simulation of the Kennedy assassination under the guise of historical posterity. Really, it was a grim, disgusting excuse to shoot a former President in the head for shits and giggles. Pretending to put 2 in Bin Laden's head sickens me just as much because he was an actual human being. You're taking the game out of the game into some very grey territory, morally.

So would you disagree in doing a reenactment of a WWII, Vietnam, Soviet-Afghan War, Iraq War, etc. battle?

[Bircher]

neptunes spear? isnt that the one that captured Osama?

[Darius137]

neptunes spear? isnt that the one that captured Osama?

No, it's a cool video game from the 1990's.

[Junto]

Shooting your buddies and killing the bad guys, airsoft style, is nothing like reenacting the death of an actual human being. That breaks from the frame of it being a game. A number of years ago, a game company wanted to come out with a simulation of the Kennedy assassination under the guise of historical posterity. Really, it was a grim, disgusting excuse to shoot a former President in the head for shits and giggles. Pretending to put 2 in Bin Laden's head sickens me just as much because he was an actual human being. You're taking the game out of the game into some very grey territory, morally.

So would you disagree in doing a reenactment of a WWII, Vietnam, Soviet-Afghan War, Iraq War, etc. battle?

No, I'd disagree with reenacting assassinations. Even in a reenactment, you may be assigned to a group named after a real one, but you are not portraying specific, named individuals, nor are you setting out to kill one, specific person on the field. I see no distinction between reenacting any assassination, regardless of the target. They are an actual human being, with a name and family, and we would be reenacting their death for our own entertainment.

Disgusting.

You all go really far out of the bounds of what I'm saying to try and poke holes in my opinion.

You want to know the main reason I find reenacting assassination so abhorrent?

as·sas·si·nate
   /əˈsæsəˌneɪt/ Show Spelled[uh-sas-uh-neyt]
verb (used with object), -nat·ed, -nat·ing.
1.
to kill suddenly or secretively, especially a politically prominent person; murder premeditatedly and treacherously.

Airsoft is a game of honor and sport. There should be nothing sporting about setting out on a clandestine operation to capture and kill a man and I believe it reflects very, very poorly on our sport to reenact a specific killing, however deserved it was.

[ogrejager]

I sort of agree with Junto on this one.

It's a moot point unless you have Blackhawks and can build a whole compound, anyway.

[Darius137]

Who needs blackhawks when you can get cheap cardboard and duct tape it together with a guy in a 4 wheeler saying "whoop whoop whoop!" in the back spinning a set of metal sticks with tinfoil helo blades on them?

[Switchback]

I sort of agree with Junto on this one.

It's a moot point unless you have Blackhawks and can build a whole compound, anyway.

Yeah, something like "it went pear-shaped, now a force on force conflict" would be fun.
But yeah, +1 to that, Sir.

[Haloeclipse]

Shooting your buddies and killing the bad guys, airsoft style, is nothing like reenacting the death of an actual human being. That breaks from the frame of it being a game. A number of years ago, a game company wanted to come out with a simulation of the Kennedy assassination under the guise of historical posterity. Really, it was a grim, disgusting excuse to shoot a former President in the head for shits and giggles. Pretending to put 2 in Bin Laden's head sickens me just as much because he was an actual human being. You're taking the game out of the game into some very grey territory, morally.

So would you disagree in doing a reenactment of a WWII, Vietnam, Soviet-Afghan War, Iraq War, etc. battle?

No, I'd disagree with reenacting assassinations. Even in a reenactment, you may be assigned to a group named after a real one, but you are not portraying specific, named individuals, nor are you setting out to kill one, specific person on the field. I see no distinction between reenacting any assassination, regardless of the target. They are an actual human being, with a name and family, and we would be reenacting their death for our own entertainment.

Disgusting.

You all go really far out of the bounds of what I'm saying to try and poke holes in my opinion.

You want to know the main reason I find reenacting assassination so abhorrent?

as·sas·si·nate
   /əˈsæsəˌneɪt/ Show Spelled[uh-sas-uh-neyt]
verb (used with object), -nat·ed, -nat·ing.
1.
to kill suddenly or secretively, especially a politically prominent person; murder premeditatedly and treacherously.

Airsoft is a game of honor and sport. There should be nothing sporting about setting out on a clandestine operation to capture and kill a man and I believe it reflects very, very poorly on our sport to reenact a specific killing, however deserved it was.

Yup. And just to get my troll on, the US has absolutely zero moral high ground on Bin Laden, if anything morally speaking, he might be a smidgen ahead of us. But thats only if you count the death, dismemberment and displacement of the millions of Iraqi and Afghani families at the hands of the US imperialist MIC as being a bad thing. And of course bringing up the native genocide, eugenics, internment camps, Vietnam, etc etc, well that would be just silly right?

[Russkie]

Fair enough Junto. Just seeing where you stand on that. I don't exactly agree with you, but we'll just leave it at that.

[Variable]

Can we just play airsoft and leave the socio-moral bullshit where it belongs?

[The Giggler]

Can we just play airsoft and leave the socio-moral bullshit where it belongs?

I agree fully, and really every game has an airsoft assassination either from a sniper or a safety kill

[Snowman]

I agree fully, and really every game has an airsoft assassination either from a sniper or a safety kill

>implying airsofters are that important

Also "safety/knife kill" = assassination, wat. Airsoft =/= Halo and Assassins Creed...

[Junto]

Can we just play airsoft and leave the socio-moral bullshit where it belongs?

Not if this is the game people want to play. I stand by what I've said.

[McNair]

Junto, well, you don't have to play it. Simple as that, man.