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Postby Steve » Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:39 am

Nocte wrote:
Steve wrote:I'd like to see events where new players and existing teams are put together somehow. Basically, where ad hoc teams of new or unaffiliated players go up against and / or work with a series of teams that are recruiting new members.


Isn't that what happens at every skirmish? Does everything have to be an 'event' with a written-out purpose?

What you're suggesting sounds like OP: Let's Wear Boots.


Okay. For the sake of explanation, let's play pretend. Say I'm a new player who hasn't been involved in the community. There are a large number of teams. Most of them are pretty small, and they each have specialized requirements for gear, membership, etc.

As a new player, I'm likely to be overwhelmed at a skirmish. Tons of shit going on, people running a dozen different directions, and general chaos. Now, at any given skirmish, how many teams are likely to be there as a team, and to be actually giving a shit about how they perform as a team?

Now, joining a team is an undertaking. There is gear to buy, tactics to learn, and there needs to be a gelling between the various players. Granted, most new players (that are kids, anyway) are likely to learn a whole lot from ANY team they join. Showing up at a skirmish is a pretty inefficient way to blunder into a team, both for the new player and the team that is recruiting.

So, what I'd like to see is a weekend event. With camping. Have a couple of different "lanes" set up where new players get a chance to play with and against a couple of teams that are recruiting over the course of two days. And Saturday night, have a campfire. This lets players mingle off the field with each other, both team members and new guys. Everyone gets a chance to mingle, and see who is a good fit for different teams. It's much more efficient for everyone involved.

If an event promoter set something like this up, I'd show up to help out. And I'm pretty sure that a good number of other folks would too. Heck, I'd even be willing to hold a couple of courses for anybody that wanted to stand around in things like setting up effective training lanes, how to lay out glass houses on the cheap and the fast, and basic individual skills. And I'm pretty sure that there are a good number of other folks who would be interested in helping out as well as attending.

It would give the local teams a way to link up with unaffiliated players, and that is something that is currently pretty hit or miss.
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Postby Ivan Daylovich™ » Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:47 am

Sounds like the team putting on a nice dress to seduce noobs. Meeting a team at a real game is much better because then you can see how they are when they're not just trying to recruit you.
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Postby Darius137 » Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:10 am

Steve wrote:
Nocte wrote:
Steve wrote:I'd like to see events where new players and existing teams are put together somehow. Basically, where ad hoc teams of new or unaffiliated players go up against and / or work with a series of teams that are recruiting new members.


Isn't that what happens at every skirmish? Does everything have to be an 'event' with a written-out purpose?

What you're suggesting sounds like OP: Let's Wear Boots.


Okay. For the sake of explanation, let's play pretend. Say I'm a new player who hasn't been involved in the community. There are a large number of teams. Most of them are pretty small, and they each have specialized requirements for gear, membership, etc.

As a new player, I'm likely to be overwhelmed at a skirmish. Tons of shit going on, people running a dozen different directions, and general chaos. Now, at any given skirmish, how many teams are likely to be there as a team, and to be actually giving a shit about how they perform as a team?

Now, joining a team is an undertaking. There is gear to buy, tactics to learn, and there needs to be a gelling between the various players. Granted, most new players (that are kids, anyway) are likely to learn a whole lot from ANY team they join. Showing up at a skirmish is a pretty inefficient way to blunder into a team, both for the new player and the team that is recruiting.

So, what I'd like to see is a weekend event. With camping. Have a couple of different "lanes" set up where new players get a chance to play with and against a couple of teams that are recruiting over the course of two days. And Saturday night, have a campfire. This lets players mingle off the field with each other, both team members and new guys. Everyone gets a chance to mingle, and see who is a good fit for different teams. It's much more efficient for everyone involved.

If an event promoter set something like this up, I'd show up to help out. And I'm pretty sure that a good number of other folks would too. Heck, I'd even be willing to hold a couple of courses for anybody that wanted to stand around in things like setting up effective training lanes, how to lay out glass houses on the cheap and the fast, and basic individual skills. And I'm pretty sure that there are a good number of other folks who would be interested in helping out as well as attending.

It would give the local teams a way to link up with unaffiliated players, and that is something that is currently pretty hit or miss.


Sounds like something I tried to propose about two years ago that most teams were interested in.

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Postby Nocte » Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:06 am

Steve wrote:
Nocte wrote:Isn't that what happens at every skirmish? Does everything have to be an 'event' with a written-out purpose?

What you're suggesting sounds like OP: Let's Wear Boots.


Now, joining a team is an undertaking.

There is gear to buy, tactics to learn, and there needs to be a gelling between the various players. Granted, most new players (that are kids, anyway) are likely to learn a whole lot from ANY team they join. Showing up at a skirmish is a pretty inefficient way to blunder into a team, both for the new player and the team that is recruiting.


I'm curious to know, of the people that are on teams already, how many of them considered joining to be as complicated as you make it out to be. When I joined APST, I didn't know any of the team tactics, I learned how the team played as a recruit, or just from tagging along with them for a while before I joined. It was over the course of several skirmishes and maybe one OP that most of the team got to know me and I was invited.

I mean, if you want to host that event, go for it, dude. I just think it's unnecessary. :)
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Postby Darius137 » Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:36 am

Steve wrote:
Nocte wrote:
Steve wrote:I'd like to see events where new players and existing teams are put together somehow. Basically, where ad hoc teams of new or unaffiliated players go up against and / or work with a series of teams that are recruiting new members.


Isn't that what happens at every skirmish? Does everything have to be an 'event' with a written-out purpose?

What you're suggesting sounds like OP: Let's Wear Boots.


Okay. For the sake of explanation, let's play pretend. Say I'm a new player who hasn't been involved in the community. There are a large number of teams. Most of them are pretty small, and they each have specialized requirements for gear, membership, etc.

As a new player, I'm likely to be overwhelmed at a skirmish. Tons of shit going on, people running a dozen different directions, and general chaos. Now, at any given skirmish, how many teams are likely to be there as a team, and to be actually giving a shit about how they perform as a team?

Now, joining a team is an undertaking. There is gear to buy, tactics to learn, and there needs to be a gelling between the various players. Granted, most new players (that are kids, anyway) are likely to learn a whole lot from ANY team they join. Showing up at a skirmish is a pretty inefficient way to blunder into a team, both for the new player and the team that is recruiting.

So, what I'd like to see is a weekend event. With camping. Have a couple of different "lanes" set up where new players get a chance to play with and against a couple of teams that are recruiting over the course of two days. And Saturday night, have a campfire. This lets players mingle off the field with each other, both team members and new guys. Everyone gets a chance to mingle, and see who is a good fit for different teams. It's much more efficient for everyone involved.

If an event promoter set something like this up, I'd show up to help out. And I'm pretty sure that a good number of other folks would too. Heck, I'd even be willing to hold a couple of courses for anybody that wanted to stand around in things like setting up effective training lanes, how to lay out glass houses on the cheap and the fast, and basic individual skills. And I'm pretty sure that there are a good number of other folks who would be interested in helping out as well as attending.

It would give the local teams a way to link up with unaffiliated players, and that is something that is currently pretty hit or miss.


I'm far too lazy to do more than DMitri online, but here's an old post relating to it:

http://airsoftpacific.com/viewtopic.php?t=27534&start=0
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Postby Cap n pickles » Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:58 am

Damn, I be trolling in those old post's/
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