Event Registration / Player Accountability

[Fred]

At many big paintball events every participant is issued a Player's Card. Usually these cards contain the player's name (verified by official state photo ID), their roster number and any other pertinent info. You have to flash your card as you enter the field to a ref. There are places for marks such as passed chrono safely, completed objectives, etc. Any infractions such as caught wiping, flagrant disregard of rules, unsportsmanlike conduct, chronoing hot on the field, etc get a hole punch from a ref. Three punches is ejection from the game with no refund. Different promoters have different ways to deal with a lost Player Card (genuinely lost or intentional), the most effective is a $20 replacement fee or no more gameplay for you. Getting caught with another player's card is instant ejection.

This system does a pretty good job of keeping everyone in check.

This actually sound like a good idea.
But who's willing to go through all the trouble setting th cards up?

I just did. Just purchased a heavy duty laminator and pouches.

I will be a guinea pig on this one. I take event hosting seriously and I want to try to make this a better system. Initially it will be a pain in the a$$ but hell if I have a ton of admins now that means more help.

I will come up with my own rule set since if we do all this as a community it will never get anywhere. someone just needs to do it and modify it from there. if other event hosts want to accept these they can.

NWAL

[Sir Stubby Eyre]

We, Camp R&R, agree with this photo ID card, lets make up a few examples and find a decent format so that those that host can have a uniform card system. We also have a digital camera and a lamination machine, I'm ready to do this
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[Chesty_01]

Not to have a negative input, but games don't get started till afternoon now days anyhow, what makes anyone think this is going to happen successfully. The only way this will work is to form a league, and or organization and have an orientation somewhere. Because believe me when I say this, nobody will come to a game ever, if they have to wait an hour in line to register, then a half hour to get and id card made, and another hour for.chrono. I know I won't be attending anything where I have to do that.

Like I have said from the beginning, you have to get organized before any of these steps can happen, and the majority of AP doesn't want to get organized. Plus, I have never once seen a person getting removed from the field except for by me at the.farm some months back. This won't work, trust me. Don't waste your money on lamentation sheets.

[Bulldog]

Having an account and signing up for a game doesn't mean a person will read the handbook. Hell, most of the time I don't read the handbook. It's too long and full of stuff I already know. I also just skim over the initial post in Rick's games 'cause they again are so long and full of things I A: already know, or B: don't care about.

No offense to hosts but, pretty much x2

[Jester316]

If you don't read the handbook, then how do you know it has stuff you know?

[Pacman]

Never mind.

[Riddick]

Never mind.

I read it

For what I have planned it will be a simple process and it doesn't involve long drawn out registration process or photos or fees, etc.

smack some benefits of using the card like event promoter waiver on file for a year, discounts, etc. and people would show up with it.

or I do nothing more than laminate a good sportsmanship card with the rules on one side and some other tidbits on the other and hand them out to people.

whatever I decide to do, it might just benefit my events and others start accepting it. I have worked on some concepts and I am comfortable with the items I have come up with as the author and as a player.

I paid $40 for a $200 pouch laminator and the sleeves themselves are dirt cheap. I'm not worried about cost on this so far. Time? Well it's my time and I got plenty of it.

this isnt about control. It's about accountability.

don't knock until you've tried it. Haters are gonna hate. A little less talk and alot more action.

[Amos]

Having an account and signing up for a game doesn't mean a person will read the handbook..

This.

[Bulldog]

If you don't read the handbook, then how do you know it has stuff you know?

Hate to break it to you but my team and I have been playing games around here for close to a decade. Guess what, for almost 10 years I have been signing up as me + whatever, and there has never been a complaint for them. I used to read the book sure, it tells allows how to kill people, when not to, how to use nades, etc. it always covers the same general ideas. I can get the game play from the game thread as well. There are only so many different types of game play out there. Sure there may be a few different tricks, but it has the same core.

As it was said before, AP has a lot of douches to "new" screen names. Hell most of my guys have been here longer then the big posters, so why do they have to be belittled by some teenager for making an error online? Besides most of the event organizers know my guys by face anyway(happens after so many years)

[Riddick]

I'm not even worried about the +1 thing honestly. It's the sportsmanship and knowledge that we have to work on.

Put education into peoples hands may not cure all but it's better than doing nothing.

[Transition]

Not to have a negative input, but games don't get started till afternoon now days anyhow, what makes anyone think this is going to happen successfully. The only way this will work is to form a league, and or organization and have an orientation somewhere. Because believe me when I say this, nobody will come to a game ever, if they have to wait an hour in line to register, then a half hour to get and id card made, and another hour for.chrono. I know I won't be attending anything where I have to do that.

Like I have said from the beginning, you have to get organized before any of these steps can happen, and the majority of AP doesn't want to get organized. Plus, I have never once seen a person getting removed from the field except for by me at the.farm some months back. This won't work, trust me. Don't waste your money on lamentation sheets.

Plus one, besides x, I have yet to see a host ever enforce a rule that could cost a host/field money

[Mr. Technicality]

As someone who has signed up +1 a few times, I think it would be a good policy to do away with +1's. It moves accountability into their hands as far as knowing what's going on and saying whether they're for sure or a maybe. And with their own account they have a better chance of becoming engaged with the community.

[Riddick]

Not to have a negative input, but games don't get started till afternoon now days anyhow, what makes anyone think this is going to happen successfully. The only way this will work is to form a league, and or organization and have an orientation somewhere. Because believe me when I say this, nobody will come to a game ever, if they have to wait an hour in line to register, then a half hour to get and id card made, and another hour for.chrono. I know I won't be attending anything where I have to do that.

Like I have said from the beginning, you have to get organized before any of these steps can happen, and the majority of AP doesn't want to get organized. Plus, I have never once seen a person getting removed from the field except for by me at the.farm some months back. This won't work, trust me. Don't waste your money on lamentation sheets.

Plus one, besides x, I have yet to see a host ever enforce a rule that could cost a host/field money

How does enforcing a rule cost someone money? If you are kicked out everyone has so far used the rule you forfeit your admission. If it's that bad you dont want them back.

Also kicking out has a few levels before it. Warning, time out, then kicked out. The process of how many steps you included depends on the severity.

also I cant wait til the 4th of july weekend is over. tired of hearing the illegal fireworks going off at all hours of the morning.

[Jester316]

Bulldog: whats your point? That you don't read the handbook before a game? Fantastic. You are contributing to the long and drawn out briefing we have to receive because people don't read a simple document that outlines the things you need to know about the specific game.

Saying you don't read it because all games are the same is retarded. Each game has it's own quirks. Yes, every game involves hits and outs, blind man, registration, chrono,... but there are many other things that are game specific (such as grenade rules, vehicle rules, scoring, winning, respawn,...). These things do not carry over from game to game, so you cannot know what a handbook will say because you read one 10 years ago.

Short of handing out a handbook at each event, having players sign up for an account here gives them access to it, so they can read it. If they don't read it, well they had access to it (versus a person who doesn't have an account).

[Ivan Daylovich™]

Jester, If you don't have an account you can't view the Off Topic Forum. All other non-private forums are viewable.
Try it. Log out. Go to the games forum. pick a thread, and view the handbook.