LORDS OF WAR III - closing comments in main game post

[Pharaoh 6]

thanks for the kudos.

Actually for the next low event I am going to a tan vs green format to help with the camo issue.[/quote]

Keep it simple. BDUs vs. DCUs. Both are extremely cheap ($10 a set up here) so there should be no complaining that someone can't afford the camo.

[Snake_Eyes]

True that P6, You could even have a bunch of rentals or sell some at registration if their camo is questionable for the side they were on. The hardest thing was the MARPAT and Woodland, the colors were sooo similar I didnt realize the enemy was the guy next to me until I safety killed them for the shear sake of saving my a$$.

[Junto]

2 patterns dude. Eff the rest.

Fo sho. It worked great at thunder strike! It would be nice to have another game where there is only one camo per side.

There's only one problem with that, and that's the fact that it utterly defies DRAT's charter to not wear Tiger Stripe outdoors. You guys can have your 2 pattern games if you like, but you'll never see us there. :/

I like tan and ACU vs Green and Brown, myself. Marpat with woodland where it belongs and all the arid patterns on the other side. No civilian wear.

[Darius137]

I also want to thank the Medhi player who calmed down his teammates and called for a parley during the assault on the log fort. There were massive rule misunderstandings, including Medhi players tossing in unauthorized grenades and getting pissed when EDG weren't calling them (correctly, I might add), which resulted in some tempers flaring on the Medhi side. After we called a ceasefire and called in an admin to mediate, I was saddened to see someone (maybe a girl, I wasn't paying too close attention) in urban digital ask an admin if he/she could just storm inside the fort and shoot us, despite their weapon shooting too hot for CQC. When someone pointed that out to he/her, the response was "I don't f***ing care". I think this was also the person who was spouting off and telling everyone in earshot that EDG were "a bunch of pussies and fags". Anyway, before I rant more, there was an older Medhi player who took charge, and suggested a parley to the admin. After that, we all agreed to parley, and he proceeded to back Medhi off 50-60 feet before re-assaulting. I wish I knew who he was so I could thank him for cooling down tempers, discouraging dangerous gameplay, and taking charge during a massive misunderstanding on all parties.

Thanks for calling me an older player.

I showed up on the scene and an admin was saying we couldn't shoot into the slats, and then I had to tell the guys they coudln't shoot over the top. Then when they stacked on the side of the fort, someone from inside popped over the top and shot a bunch of them, which was the exact thing I just told them not to do.

Sig and I saw people were getting too hot so we backed off and let you guys have the precious log fort that we had been fighting at for so long, since there was less than an hour left in the game and we could easily lock down the city for that long and keep the sectors (though some sneaky bastard switched point 4 without us knowing).

[sig]

I also want to thank the Medhi player who calmed down his teammates and called for a parley during the assault on the log fort. There were massive rule misunderstandings, including Medhi players tossing in unauthorized grenades and getting pissed when EDG weren't calling them (correctly, I might add), which resulted in some tempers flaring on the Medhi side. After we called a ceasefire and called in an admin to mediate, I was saddened to see someone (maybe a girl, I wasn't paying too close attention) in urban digital ask an admin if he/she could just storm inside the fort and shoot us, despite their weapon shooting too hot for CQC. When someone pointed that out to he/her, the response was "I don't f***ing care". I think this was also the person who was spouting off and telling everyone in earshot that EDG were "a bunch of pussies and fags". Anyway, before I rant more, there was an older Medhi player who took charge, and suggested a parley to the admin. After that, we all agreed to parley, and he proceeded to back Medhi off 50-60 feet before re-assaulting. I wish I knew who he was so I could thank him for cooling down tempers, discouraging dangerous gameplay, and taking charge during a massive misunderstanding on all parties.

Thanks for calling me an older player.

I showed up on the scene and an admin was saying we couldn't shoot into the slats, and then I had to tell the guys they coudln't shoot over the top. Then when they stacked on the side of the fort, someone from inside popped over the top and shot a bunch of them, which was the exact thing I just told them not to do.

Sig and I saw people were getting too hot so we backed off and let you guys have the precious log fort that we had been fighting at for so long, since there was less than an hour left in the game and we could easily lock down the city for that long and keep the sectors (though some sneaky bastard switched point 4 without us knowing).

I think he was calling me the old guy even though I still get carded when buying booze.

More credit goes to you though as you actually got everyone to back out of the area. Hopefully we can avoid situations like that in the future. I think the rules of engagement on the fort need to be gone over at the safety briefing in the future as it seemed neither side nor the admins knew exactly what they were without getting clarification from Rick.

[The Giggler]

someone from inside popped over the top and shot a bunch of them, which was the exact thing I just told them not to do.

I should point out that we were told specifically by two seperate admins that it was ok to do. In fact, he shot them because he did that earlier to people and safety killed them, which they bitched at.

EDG inside the fort were told explicitly that we COULD NOT shoot through the slats, but we COULD shoot and safety kill over the top of the walls.


Tldr; the fort was a class A cock up.

Yeah 3-2 was being turned into swiss cheese by your guys I was surprised we even took the Fort at all.

[[HARPER]]

We were not. most of 3-2 was under different orders. Any that were there to die were there by my command or men going solo. I do not sacrifice men not matter how much i call them meatshields.

[The Giggler]

I mean my group we were destroyed once I didn't know about the path around the fort. Harper you are one of the best commanders I have seen and I know you wouldn't sacrifice men in vain

[The Giggler]

We were not. most of 3-2 was under different orders. Any that were there to die were there by my command or men going solo. I do not sacrifice men not matter how much i call them meatshields.

Whatever force that was attacking the fort got upsidedown up initially, but as soon as we were told we couldn't fire through the slats, you guys put down enough suppressive fire to keep us from firing from over the top for more than a second or two.

the main part of the attack was other teams with 3-2, but once you guys weren't firing throught those things 3-2 unloaded all that we had

[Junto]

I think not being able to fire through the slats is a load of bull. It should be the responsibility of the players OUTSIDE the buildings to avoid approaching the slats at an unsafe distance or the point of having buildings in play at all is negated. On top of that, I think it sets up a silly precedent about when you can and can't fire that could also easily be applied to firing through small gaps in heavy underbrush, out of full-on windows in buildings, and so on.

It should be common-fucking-sense not to run in front of the firing ports on a fortified structure.

[redd]

I think not being able to fire through the slats is a load of bull. It should be the responsibility of the players OUTSIDE the buildings to avoid approaching the slats at an unsafe distance or the point of having buildings in play at all is negated. On top of that, I think it sets up a silly precedent about when you can and can't fire that could also easily be applied to firing through small gaps in heavy underbrush, out of full-on windows in buildings, and so on.

It should be common-f***ing-sense not to run in front of the firing ports on a fortified structure.

I agree. run UNDER the slats. that is what one would do in a real to life situation. That is just a rule to protect the stupid, and the stupid shouldn't be in this sport, therefore there shouldn't be a need for that rule!

[Catch22]

It depends on if the slats are big enough to see out of while shooting. Or if it's just big enough to stick a barrel through and blind fire.

[Junto]

Every slat I've used on that field is big enough for a clear target picture either through my rifle sights or right along either side of the barrel. Either method allows visibility on both sides of my weapon and at no time does it become blind fire.

[Jester316]

New avatar... shazaam yea!

[Riddick]

Riddick,

You get a thread of your own. I've thoroughly enjoyed meeting you, talking with you, and playing in your events. The effort you put in to host these events does not go unnoticed by my guys or I. Haters will hate, but you bring it. Many players asked us this weekend if we attend any events up here. The answer is no! They just haven't figured it out up here yet. You have.

Your games progressively get better and better. This is the sign of someone who cares about the community and his business and always tries to find balance between the two. I have played a total of 8 games down there since I started in airsoft under two years ago and yours are always the best and never disappoint. I know every time I hand over my hard earned money I give it knowing I'm getting more than I paid for!

A happy and loyal customer for life....

Erik

Thanks P6 for the praise. For some reason your post helped lift my spirits after the event. After Rez III I was on cloud 9 because I know I did my hardest to make that event the best I could and peoples reaction after it supported my opinion of my work.

For some reason LOW seems to tilt back in forth between praise and lots of gripes. I put as much into this as I did the last event. So I am not sure whats going on. Maybe just not cut out for milsim style games. I don't know, I got one more milsim style planned for october and depending on the outcome will determine if I continue with that style of game or not. Sometimes people are better with certain genres.

I am addressing the camo issue in the future by going tan/brown vs green.
I have contacted SOTA and have made an agreement with many of their members to help run admin at my games plus bring a few of my own so that way plenty of jobs to hand out to before and during the events. It's never been about being cheap or not wanting to have more admins as I was the first to start paying my admins 2 years ago but I have a hell of a time finding them but we have found a solution that should fix this.

Your right, haters are going to hate. I have dealt with this for a long time in this community. If anyone knows me well, they know I give a shit about you guys. Without your continued support there would be no reason to continue doing what I do. It's not about the money, it's about helping a fellow player out or having them say I had a great time. This is why I offer airsoft goods to people at cost or do special event orders for them. Special discounts on ammo, etc, etc. I don't see anyone else doing this but I do it because I am able to. Because I care to help save a player money if I can.

I will continue to work at this. I will continue to get better. I will listen to feedback and apply it in future events if its useful. I treat this as a business and when people are unhappy then your business is going to fail.

So again fellas I really appreciate your support. I know there were good and bad with LOW III. I'm not going back to vehicles. I wasn't a fan in the beginning but I figured it was worth a try however it's just one more thing to have 80 rules over along with the 150 rules for the event. I think in this process keeping it simplier might be better.