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Postby DJ » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:20 pm

Wisenheimer wrote:I was thinking gutted, safety-fied.... but of course I'm wrong 7.46% of the time. :D



Yikes! I have seen waaaaay too many of these things, rotting away sitting on some lot. They are impossible to get rid of, sub standard construction and in this environment ( coast range ) not being heated a mobile will de-construct itself post haste. An old mobile is a thing of beauty....NOT!!
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Postby thejerk211 » Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:45 pm

You should put on a mexican cartel ranch type thing. One large building and lots of smaller buildings. Or you could always do a African hut village.
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Postby Steve » Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:01 am

It was pretty common to see compounds in downtown Kandahar that were partially converted to stores. I'll see if I can come up with pictures. But the gist of it was that there were walled compounds set back from the "roads". The wall of the compound served as the back wall of the shops. And built off the wall was a building closer to the dirt street. The building had little 10x10 brick storage units all run together like you see at a u-store. They had metal roll up doors and counters built inside them, with the merchandise displayed behind the counter inside the shop. At the end of the day, or whenever the owner decided to shazaam off, they would roll down the door and disappear.
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Postby KA-BAR » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:46 am

i see one major flaw , that noone has even brought up...


you want to build a adobe village in oregon?

i am not sure if you have lived here long, but it RAINS here in oregon.

your adobe brick house will turn into a huge mud puddle in less then three games. how do i know? at ABT scrounge and X made a mud brick fortification...... it melted.



adobe bricks are used in arid environments, not in a tempurate rainforest.


this might work, in bend/madras....central oregon, and that is a maybe, it rains there too.





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Postby DJ » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:50 am

KA-BAR wrote:i see one major flaw , that noone has even brought up...


you want to build a adobe village in oregon?

i am not sure if you have lived here long, but it RAINS here in oregon.

your adobe brick house will turn into a huge mud puddle in less then three games. how do i know? at ABT scrounge and X made a mud brick fortification...... it melted.



adobe bricks are used in arid environments, not in a tempurate rainforest.


this might work, in bend/madras....central oregon, and that is a maybe, it rains there too.





your mileage may vary.


Your right on re the adobe thing, particularly in the coast range. Stucco with concrete / chicken wire would be an acceptable substitute?
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Postby KA-BAR » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:59 am

^ this may work.
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Postby Wisenheimer » Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:03 am

If the mud bricks were stucco'd, would that not protect the bricks from turning to mud?
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Postby Steve » Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:23 am

Once the bricks dry, they hold up pretty well. That is why houses made of mud bricks are still around hundreds, if not thousands, of years later.

In Afghanistan, they build the houses out of mud bricks. Then they use mud to stucco over them. They replace the mud as needed. But it's pretty infrequent.

As long as you guys find a way to bake your bricks, you should be fine.
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Postby Skunk Ape » Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:48 am

im demoing out some areas here at my job in monmouth where i will be taking off some brick veneer( full actual bricks) that if somebody could come and get, i have an suv they can have. i get brick a lot mainly off the side of buildings and we just throw away, i get roll up doors frequently etc... ifr you get me a potential list and if i come across it and it will be picked up i am more than willing to give it to you...
**edit i also get a SHIT TON of doors and frames from interior demo
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Postby Matt » Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:49 am

Free railroad ties. Get some.
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Postby DJ » Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:01 am

Matt wrote:Free railroad ties. Get some.


Railroad ties are awesome for applications where no contact is made with them. In my experience, when the weather warms up the stinkin things ooze creosote ( even old ones) which is a cast iron witch with a B to get out of stuff.
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Re: Camp R&R Village Layout

Postby Sir Stubby Eyre » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:56 pm

Ka Bar, I have considered the use of adobe in Oregon. The reason we are building the CEB brick machine is because of the weather.
I have lived here in Oregon my whole life and here on the coast range for the last 12 years, it usually rains 2x as much as in Portland.
One of the reasons that they do so much more adobe in arid places is the lack of trees for building materials, cost of the dirt, and also the high thermal value of the adobe bricks.

Sir Stubby Eyre wrote:Our buildings will be build out of Adobe block and plastered with a lime finish.


"The advantages of CEB are in the wait time for material, the elimination of shipping cost, the low moisture content, and the uniformity of the block thereby minimizing, if not eliminating the use of mortar and decreasing both the labor and materials costs.

CEB can be pressed from humid earth. Because it is not wet, the drying time is much shorter. Some soil conditions permit the blocks to go straight from the press onto the wall. A single mechanical press can produce from 800 to over 5,000 blocks per day, enough to build a 1,200 square feet (110 m2) house in one day."
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In my research I have found quit a few 100 plus year old houses on the northern East Coast. Their weather is about the same as ours. Also if 5% cement or lime is added to the mix it is considered stabilized CED. They are weather/water proof. We will be plastering the exterior of these buildings to add more weather proofing.
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Postby Darius137 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:02 am

That's awesome.

I'll definitely be looking at your spot again more closely when I come to your Independence skirm on July 2nd & 3rd.

I was talking to Android about the GI Joe game and think it'd be perfect for R & R. Also I got my all black ALICE setup in, along with black neck gaiter, WW2 helmet (needs painting) and blue flight suit.


For everyone else, here's the map of Camp R & R:
http://www.camprandr.com/wp-content/upl ... eldmap.png

and here's a picture I drew of roughly the area that the village would be placed in:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/D ... /base1.png

I know I'd like Steve's input on the design, since he's nerdy and once brought graph paper to the CAGE when it was still around.
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Postby Steve » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:06 am

Chances are, I'll have some free time this summer if you guys want a hand laying out a village. I'd need to take a look at the site, or at least get good dimensions. Then I can plot out suggested building locations for you. Once you have a good idea of what you want where, we can go hammer in some stakes, wrap them in engineer tape, and glass house the shit out of the area. Then it's just a matter of building along the tape lines.
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Postby KA-BAR » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:06 am

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