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Is my gun lipo ready?

Postby glockmeister » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:08 pm

My gun has guarder reinforced gears, guarder tappet plate, stock echo 1 motor, m120 spring, guarder piston with matrix aluminum piston head, guarder cylinder, systema air nozzle, and a guarder spring guide. Is my gun lipo ready? Or will it get shreaded up.
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Postby Transition » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:26 pm

just do it, see what happens, I have run a lipo in a stock ca sportline with no issues for over a month.
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Postby PanzerFaust » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:37 pm

ROF = rate of failure. That said, as long as your gears are shimmed properly you shouldn't have issue for a good while. I ran an 11.1v lipo in a more or less stock A&K masada for over a year without any issues other than getting the mags to keep up.
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Postby glockmeister » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:39 pm

Alright thanks
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Postby league 4 » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:41 pm

An SP110/M110 spring would help a lot to increase longevity. 400FPS is achievable with an SP110 spring.
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Postby G36 FTW » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:15 pm

Whats with all the "lipo ready" crap?

A lipo just puts rounds through your gun faster, similar to putting more miles on a car. The more miles on your car, the more likely it is to break.



Also, when you use a lipo, every part will eventually fail. I still haven't seen another gun eat shit in the fashion mine did- it broke the nozzle right off the cylinder! That was the result of 40k+ rounds using a 11.1v lipo. After I replace the cylinder head, the only stock part left will by the cylinder itself. (just btw, it is dusty/hairy because my cat sits on everything, and ehobby is taking their time with my order...)
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tl;dr, everything will break eventually.
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Postby glockmeister » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:51 am

I hear stores saying these guns are lipo ready and blah blah blah, so really it's just making your gun breakdown at a faster rate? Even though you are practically shooting the same amount of bbs.
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Postby glockmeister » Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:53 am

(just btw, it is dusty/hairy because my cat sits on everything, and ehobby is taking their time with my order...)

My cat is the same way.
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Postby Switchback » Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:05 am

Yes.
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Postby Steve » Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:39 am

glockmeister wrote:I hear stores saying these guns are lipo ready and blah blah blah, so really it's just making your gun breakdown at a faster rate? Even though you are practically shooting the same amount of bbs.


No. Your gun breaks down faster because you shoot more bbs in the same amount of time.

To use an analogy: You have to change your oil every 3,000 miles. If you drive at 60 miles an hour, you have to change the oil every 50 hours or so of driving. If you drive at 30 miles an hour, you go 100 hours behind the wheel before you hit 3,000 miles.

If your MTBF (mean time between failure) is 25,000 pellets, you get there faster with a lipo than you do with a lower-voltage NMH pack. Also, you run the internal bits faster, which means that you may build up more heat. More heat, and you may break things quicker.
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Postby DJ » Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:51 am

There is a common misconception that rate of fire (ROF) equals killing power. While this may be true with a AC 131 gunship or similar platform, in airsoft it equals increased wear and empty mags at a quicker rate. I know that high ROF sounds cool, but thats about it. I watched a video of a guy with an airsoft mini gun at a skirmish. He thought he was Ramo walking around hosing down the scenery. He got no one and was so limited by the weight/ bulk he was carrying, that he was combat ineffective. As in the real word, well placed shots are much more effective than a shit storm of poorly aimed bullets. Resist modding your gun purely for the sake of high ROF. I have been well served with 8.4 ni cads. For me it is about high Mah more than ROF. Most of my / our guns are capable of fielding large type batteries. Rarely do we have a gun quit due to lack of power, in fact we have had guns go an entire weekend without changing out batteries. Its really your choice, but this is my 2 cents.
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Postby Nec » Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:07 am

Guarder gears aren't very good and I would get a metal tooth piston and adjust the AOE.


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Postby BlacksunshineGAAS » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:22 pm

And a mosfet.
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Postby Switchback » Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:17 pm

I like guns with quick trigger response, and that often comes with a high ROF. Trigger control is king here, where magazines fly downrange unexpectedly fast when not accompanied by recoil.
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Postby God » Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:11 am

Gas guns would save airsoft from many issues. But admittedly make tons others.

It seems airsoft is inching farther from realistic weaponry/combat the more they're upgraded internally... With the exception of the to-be new KWA series.

Being pinned my some crazy 30rps lipo run gun+ 300rnd mag is hellishly annoying...
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