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Postby Transition » Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:25 pm

Location:
We as a community need to do something about locations. Most of the places we play are either somebody’s 10-20 acre back lot, public land, or a paintball field. A dedicated Airsoft field would be nice to have.
What I would like to see: A dedicated airsoft field, or at least a paintball / airsoft field with terrain that works for airsoft.
How can we make this happen? Adopt a field. Pick someplace (I like Titan 1’s field down in Kaiser), and run events there. One event every month. A weekend event. With a higher buy-in, like $40 to $60 for the event. And roll a big chunk of any profits into improving the field, specifically for airsoft. Do it as a social event. Have platoon leaders act as refs. This will allow them to assess newer players, and decide whether or not to recruit them for their platoons.


tried this....=]
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Postby Darius137 » Fri Jun 03, 2011 8:40 pm

Until we have a field with 8 buildings and a shed full of non-chintzy props, we won't have a field people will be willing to go to regularly and spend money when Oregon is so full of awesome forests to play in.
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Postby Sixxgun » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:12 pm

besides all the advancements in technology (guns and such) would like to see more cheap or even free games (not clusterfu¢k skrimishes)
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Postby KA-BAR » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:24 pm

actually i have seen a huge drop off. there is sooo much room for improvement its not event funny.

from top to bottom.



but i doubt it will ever get done, so things will just remain the same.
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Postby Riddick » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:29 pm

Transition wrote:Location:
We as a community need to do something about locations. Most of the places we play are either somebody’s 10-20 acre back lot, public land, or a paintball field. A dedicated Airsoft field would be nice to have.
What I would like to see: A dedicated airsoft field, or at least a paintball / airsoft field with terrain that works for airsoft.
How can we make this happen? Adopt a field. Pick someplace (I like Titan 1’s field down in Kaiser), and run events there. One event every month. A weekend event. With a higher buy-in, like $40 to $60 for the event. And roll a big chunk of any profits into improving the field, specifically for airsoft. Do it as a social event. Have platoon leaders act as refs. This will allow them to assess newer players, and decide whether or not to recruit them for their platoons.


tried this....=]


there is no such thing as titan 1 field. It's called Warpaint Outdoor Park. Always has been ;-)
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Postby LettuceHead » Fri Jun 03, 2011 9:43 pm

Sixxgun wrote:besides all the advancements in technology (guns and such) would like to see more cheap or even free games (not clusterfu¢k skrimishes)


Many games are a cluster**** skirmish because they are too cheap or free.
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Postby Darius137 » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:20 am

To make games less of a clusterfuck you have to give an incentive to the hosts and people running the sides.

If you're paying to be there, you don't want to spend your time managing people.

Also if you have a 300 person game on a non-event-host field, you're going to see very little profit to run a big game. Most of the profit is from selling consumables and to the field owners.

To make a game better, you need to pay for it. Until people are willing to spend $50 a person to attend a 150 person game and the admins are paid and the core leaders (not just the CO, but PL's and I would say a price discount for Squad Leaders, given experience) then you'll have a good game.

Right now you've got a few people willing to host games, a few people willing to act as Commander and about 75% of the people just showing up and ignoring everything said in the pre-game briefings.

Then you have a few fields olpening for airsoft only without smart business sense or plans to build the required structure to make people play there for cost over free fields that have awesome terrain but can never be improved due to BLM laws.
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Postby Darius137 » Sat Jun 04, 2011 4:20 am

Also airsofters seem to be the whiniest princesses of any hobby out there.

A lot of airsofters will get mad if airsoft is not 100% how they want it to be, and instead of just doing something else or making airsoft how they want it and letting the consumer choose what type of airsoft they play, the grumpy types would rather write to congress and support laws that hurt airsoft as a whole.

*points at KA-BAR and Alex Kaeda*
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Postby MSE-CLAYMORE » Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:13 am

Catch22 wrote:I just have to say, you necro'd a thread from 2009


Yea, that was almost a noobalicious necro...GEEZ. :oops:
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Postby Darius137 » Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:44 pm

I was talking with Android at the Scap "Boobies" Skirm on the 4th and we both had a good time. It was not serious and was free and in the woods and I don't think there needs to be an advancement beyond 50-60 guys/boobies going out to the woods on a sunny day and shooting airsoft.

As far as MIL-SIM, I think there was a slight Plateau due mainly to our theatres of operation being in UCP/ACU pattern and desert MARPAT, which nobody uses.

Now that Multicam is the DeFacto camouflage for the US Military, with small pockets of woodland and DCU, I think MILSIM will be able to advance. But just as camouflage is ready (as in a lot of people have the MILSIM camouflage now instead of their first set being somethign else) the vehicle of use has changed from an easily mimicked/acquired jeep to ASVs and MRAPs and other weird GI Joe trucks.

I think Indoor has gone up and down due to an arena, but if you look at the progression of the CQC series, they are slowly getting better and bringing in more features and improving gameplay. The only issue with indoor is that only one team is hosting the events, as well as PLA/CAG hosts an occasional training for everyone.
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