Crossdraws, yes or no?

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Postby Icepick » Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:57 am

@Patrick: I meant the open tops that have a strand of bungee around the top of the mag pouch, instead of the pouches that have a bungee cord over the top. (If that makes sense, I'd be amazed... Pretty damn tired right now.)
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Postby Blizzard » Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:38 am

I prefer an assault vest because it's lighter, more flexible, and unless you use oddly-shaped mags (like a P90), it's pretty universal. BUT, I hate cross-draws. Yes, I've used one. Unless your a south-paw, the mag pouches are on the wrong side, and you have to use your right hand to reload. Speed-reloads with a cross-draw are almost impossible.

I prefer a rifleman vest setup like the Tactical Tailor 1A Tac Vest. OETech makes a decent knock-off version of it that I use: http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.p ... ts_id=4109 I've been running that for almost 2 years now, and it's still in excellent condition. I've put M14, Ak, Sig, G36, MP5, and double stacked M4/M16 mags in it with no problem. Just put on a hydro-pouch, dumper, and holster (if you need one), and you'll be set for a while.
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Postby Sodak » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:35 am

All comes down to personal preference to me. Easy to use, but I prefer plate carriers...
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Postby Limpy » Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:47 am

Icepick wrote:Well Nasty, with all due respect you know the old saying right? Easier said than done? In some sort of relation to that, I guess another point I should have mentioned is the "noob" factor. With everybody running around in this fantastic $1000 gear, the little guy ($40 crossdraw) is obviously going to get bagged on a bit.


Yeah Sam, because everyone's gear cost $1000. Use what works, not what looks cool, but if you think it looks cool and you like how it works then bully for you! Your ability to look cool has nothing to do with how well you do, or how popular you are in this community, which, also, doesn't matter nearly as much as many think it does.

Anyway, shazaam no, I'd never use a cross draw again, I like drawing from my hip and upper thigh.
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Postby jeckel01 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:22 pm

icepick..i have two crossdraws with drop holsters. i think they are great and comfy as hell. and one has held up since i started airsofting. and also they hold either my ak mags or my m4 mags. they are great for either indoor and outdoor play
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Postby Icepick » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:24 pm

I think my next investment is going to be a more "low-profile" rig, something that isn't bulky, but also has lots of retail space... Any ideas?(I would prefer a Conor/OE tech, I don't like spending too much money.)

EDIT: The low-profile design is what I like about it, and the fact that it covers your entire torso, back, etc.
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Postby VogonFord » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:30 pm

I used to use a Blackhawk! crossdraw and I loved it. I never really had any issues with speed reloading, as I never felt like it was too far to reach. I also liked using it because it held up my ALICE belt excellently - using that vest I carried far more than I've ever carried before or since, as I had it fully loaded up along with a fully loaded ALICE belt beneath. I also had four pistol holsters on it :lol: (The crossdraw, a UTG belt, SERPA belt and a dropleg).

That said, they don't look "tacticool" anymore, but they are comfy and they work. I'm more of a "use what works" than a "use what's tacticool", although in general I've become fairly anti-tacticool.
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Postby Slowgun » Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:13 pm

Patrick750 wrote:i regret getting open top mag pouches, the bungee cords get in the way

I just put the mags in my open top pouches, and then pull the bungee cords off to the side of the mag. It seems like a tight enough fit that the mags wont fall out easily, so IMO the bungee cords arent necessary. You could always just cut them off, but I wouldnt.

I have a crossdraw vest and a plate carrier. I like the plate carrier because its all MOLLE, while the crossdraw only has MOLLE on the back, and a spot on the front. I don't like how the pouches on my crossdraw can't be moved, or rearranged. Thats why I prefer the Plate Carrier, because you rearrange the pouches to fit your needs and preferences.
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Postby ogrejager » Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:33 pm

Slowgun wrote:Thats why I prefer the Plate Carrier, because you rearrange the pouches to fit your needs and preferences.


This needs emphasized. I putter with my pouches all of the time.

Icepick, you want a 1 piece MAV like this, I think (or maybe the 2 piece model):

http://www.tacticaltailor.com/mavbody1piece.aspx

On topic, crossdraws suck. What is, for me, prime real estate is now my seldom used sidearm. If you really have to have that crossdraw, still do it with MOLLE and get one of those 45 degree panels.
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Postby Miracle » Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:40 pm

I like low pro, So I always ran a super basic Chicom Chest rig over the top of soft armor. I know OE Tech/Condor makes really baic AK style chest rigs for like 20 bucks. So I think your best best would be one of those. Not bulky, hold a map, radio, water, and 8 mags, and don't get in the way of your arm movement at all. Downside it that its a little uncomfortable going prone, but you have the same problem with PCs. and since the pouches are closed top you wont get any crap in your mags.

A while ago I bout a one piece and a two piece TT MAV. The two piece is a little more comfortable in my opinon, however they both are great buys. I won't ever need to buy another rig again. If you have the cash, you should pick this up above just about everything else. Its around 60
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Postby Icepick » Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:50 pm

I guess I kind of described it wrong, think of something kind of like this.

http://www.skdtac.com/Eagle_LE_Plate_Ca ... 1&CartID=0
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Postby Switchback » Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:01 pm

Icepick wrote:I guess I kind of described it wrong, think of something kind of like this.

http://www.skdtac.com/Eagle_LE_Plate_Ca ... 1&CartID=0


I have something very similar to that and it is quite comfortable. To heavy for GBB magazine, but effective for AEG magazines.
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Postby ogrejager » Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:09 pm

Icepick wrote:I guess I kind of described it wrong, think of something kind of like this.

http://www.skdtac.com/Eagle_LE_Plate_Ca ... 1&CartID=0


Yes, you described it wrong. That is not "low profile."
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Postby Icepick » Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:35 pm

I was thinking something along the lines of "Going to stay close to my body" if that makes sense? I currently am running a Crye Chassis replica, and it is bulkier than all hell, try and compare that to a crossdraw and make sense out of my statement. :lol:
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Postby Miracle » Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:43 pm

Switchback wrote:
Icepick wrote:I guess I kind of described it wrong, think of something kind of like this.

http://www.skdtac.com/Eagle_LE_Plate_Ca ... 1&CartID=0


I have something very similar to that and it is quite comfortable. To heavy for GBB magazine, but effective for AEG magazines.


It will work fine for GBB magazines.... Its supposed to have SAPI plates in it. Otherwise its just cloth, and its not a PLATE carrier and doesn't have any rigidity...

And ya thats not low profile, its a plate carrier, thats the opposite of low profile. Adding any kind of pouches on top of it is going to make it bulkier, just like any other PC. If you wanted low profile, or something that isn't going to get in the way as much, you need to look into any one of the suggestions the other members have made for you outside of the crossdraw...
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