SERPA PALS mount

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SERPA PALS mount

Postby Juicemachine » Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:39 pm

Okay, I've gots me a dilemma. I have a SERPA, and I like my SERPA. I also want an Eagle Universal Chestrig. Only problem with that is, I don't use 2 MBITRs. To fix this problem, I'm planning on getting the SKDtac version.

Back to the SERPA. I don't want to spend money on a duty belt and pad and shit, so I'm going to mount my pistol, with mags and such, on my rig. I don't wanna use the Thumb Break Adapter, as I don't like thumb breaks, I like SERPAs and I wanna use that pouch, along with an ATS Low-Profile Medical Insert for my medkit. This means I'm gonna mount my SERPA on the PALS on the right side. The only current mount for a SERPA to PALS is the STRIKE mount, which takes up 4 channels of webbing, which is more than I have. I also saw Jew's solution (in before lolocaust joke), but it would take too much space as well. What I'm thinking is taking a STRIKA mount, and moving the 2 hook things on the sides, and moving them to the top, so it's only taking up 2 columns. I'd also probably trim off the 3 holes on each side, as I'm gonna have it mounted straight up and down, to save space.

Thoughts/ideas/suggestions?

tl;dr: I need to mount a SERPA on only 2 columns of PALS, halp.
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Postby mr_kong » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:06 pm

Custom rig: BHI speed clips or MALICE clips

Drill as needed.
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Postby Snowman » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:20 pm

Well, why don't you like thumb breaks?
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Postby Juicemachine » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:30 pm

Snowman wrote:Well, why don't you like thumb breaks?


Longer draw than SERPA, hard to reholster.

mr_kong wrote:Custom rig: BHI speed clips or MALICE clips

Drill as needed.


Could work, I'm gonna look into that. I'm formulating ideas as we speak...
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Postby Snowman » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:32 pm

Oh, thought you were talking about the SERPA thumbbreak-ish mount.

http://www.tactical.com/serpa-quick-disconnect-kits.html

So if you ever want to use a droplet mount....
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Postby Juicemachine » Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:43 pm

Snowman wrote:Oh, thought you were talking about the SERPA thumbbreak-ish mount.

http://www.tactical.com/serpa-quick-disconnect-kits.html

So if you ever want to use a droplet mount....


Duty belt>dropleg.
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Postby Rentax » Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:48 pm

In my opinion carrying a pistol that high on your chest rig completely nullifies a quick draw. so you may want to rethink the thumb break system VS the belt / leg platform systems.
That being said... I would suggest mounting something like this http://www.tacticaltailor.com/platecarriersideplateupgrade.aspx
to the available molle space and also get a nice map pocket.
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Postby Jewish Ninja » Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:06 am

I'd just keep the holster on a paddle mount and put it on your belt.

http://www.galls.com/goid/style.html?as ... tyle=LP528

You see what the holster is mounted on? I have one of those and it only takes up 2 rows. It'll stick into pouches on the side when its flat, but when its on you it works great.
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Postby Juicemachine » Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:11 am

Rentax wrote:In my opinion carrying a pistol that high on your chest rig completely nullifies a quick draw. so you may want to rethink the thumb break system VS the belt / leg platform systems.
That being said... I would suggest mounting something like this http://www.tacticaltailor.com/platecarriersideplateupgrade.aspx
to the available molle space and also get a nice map pocket.


I agree, which is why I want to mount it there. If I don't have gear on my belt, then I can wear my chestrig lower, allowing for easier mag grabbage.

Jew, I was looking at those, they looked too big, but it could work.
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Postby Steve » Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:55 am

Just as a heads-up, I'm not a fan of mounting a secondary on a vest. More on that at the end.

If you are going to mount it to the vest, I'd look at hitting up Tactical Tailor for a 45-degree panel so you can angle the SERPA for a canted cross-body draw. Pulling a secondary across your primary is enough of a pain in the a$$ before you start trying to pull it straight up toward your chin from left of center. either pulling straight across your body or at a 45 degree angle will still suck, but much less so.

It looks like the back of the rig you are looking at has a horizontal strao. I'm betting that you could scavenge a battle belt to add molle real estate to that strap, or simply cut a chunk of a rigger's belt to size and attach it to increase the width (height?) of the strap to something that would carry a SERPA on a paddle or belt panel. That will let you carry your secondary just behind the iliac crest of your dominant hip. Carrying there means that your primary is out of the way of your draw stroke for deploying the pistol.

Now, as to why I don't like carrying a secondary on a vest:
It takes up real estate that is better used for more bang juice for your primary, or smokes, or anything else, really. Real estate is precious.

When you go prone, it is underneath you.

If you aren't prone, generally you have to reach across your primary to get to it. shazaam that noise. If my primary is down, I want a gun, not a club that I am fighting with to keep it out of the way while I grab for a gun. Chances are, you'll either get tangled up in it, rack yourself in the nuts, or have to fight the optics and other crap attached to it in order to get to your secondary.

And finally, when operating under adrenaline dump,gross motor skills are slightly degraded while fine motor skills are flushed down the toilet. It is a much simpler skillset to hang on to your primary with your off hand and keep it clear while you draw your secondary with your dominant hand. Your primary has already failed you. It is infectious. Keep it away from your secondary. Worry about one thing at a time.

Generally speaking, I prefer to carry my secondary on a thigh rig. Second place goes to a belt holster behind the dominant hip.There is no prize for third. I also prefer to carry my primary on a single-point wolf-hook style sling, because these slings keep the primary out of the way when you aren't employing it, hang muzzle-down from the dominant shoulder, and don't block molle real estate. Also, I've been racked in the nuts by my own rifle while running using standard single-point bungee slings as well as three point slings. Never had it happen with a wolfhook, even when my primary was hanging by my side and I was literally sprinting and ping-ponging off walls with a pistol in my hands while chasing down hajis. Bounced my primary off a lot of other shit, mind you, but didn't tap myself in the sack. And at the end of the day, being able to take a piss without cringing is chock full of win.
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