Knowing when you're hit?

[Seagreen]

My pet peeve is when you shoot someone, they look around, and not seeing who shot them think they aren't hit...

Oh, the stories to tell on that one.

Hits, gettting hit, and applying hits....it's all about honor. Mistakes happen, but when the same people make the same mistakes often they can generally be labled as a "hack-fuck" and asked not to come around anymore....by event organizers..or the community here on AP for the AP oriented events.

Outting people is a good thing when they are hacking. Hopefully we find some at LoW2...I love to kick cheaters out of the game...it's my "thing" as an admin to ensure a better experience for everyone else.

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THWACK!

[Msixty]

lol, the talk of weapon hits reminded me, at the last game on the farm i was shooting from behind a tree and when i pulled back my stock got hit (it was sticking out) everything just kinda stopped for a second and i yelled out to the 4 or 5 guys shooting at me if i was out ca's my rifle got hit or if i should drop the rifle, they were really cool and just said to keep going, it was interesting to have a conversation with the people shooting at me.

back on topic though, i use a vest with lots of padding all over (neck, lower torso, groin plate, shoulder pads) and to my knowledge it has not been a problem, i have heard plenty of hits on all parts of it, even on my knee pad, and always call myself out, nobody has talked to me about it, so i think i haven't missed getting hit yet.

[Unconventional]

My pet peeve is when you shoot someone, they look around, and not seeing who shot them think they aren't hit...

Oh, the stories to tell on that one.

Hits, gettting hit, and applying hits....it's all about honor. Mistakes happen, but when the same people make the same mistakes often they can generally be labled as a "hack-f**k" and asked not to come around anymore....by event organizers..or the community here on AP for the AP oriented events.

Outting people is a good thing when they are hacking. Hopefully we find some at LoW2...I love to kick cheaters out of the game...it's my "thing" as an admin to ensure a better experience for everyone else.

When they do that, we simply act like they are not there...as if they don't exist. If they are not smart enough to follow the event/organization rules then they usually are not smart enough to listen to you when you attempt to tell them they are cheating and that you and others know it. So we just notify the admins and then ignore the guy as if he is invisible. With no social interaction with anybody, they usually end up not coming back anyway.

I love it when they pout or start getting mad that they got hit.

[Snowman]

My cammies are bulletproof.

I wear a PC all the time, I have no difficulty telling when I get hit.

[ZigZag]

I actually think the rain might be more to Blame than the plate carrier. I was in a jacket and tac vest at my last game. I could hear and feel when I was hit by a couple of BBs in succession but a single sniper hit sounded and felt like a rain drop falling off a tree. I tried to call the outs when I was in doubt but it was really hard to tell.

[Tactical Church]

Wow well this is all really great input/info. I would agree with everyone that this is just a game and to when in doubt call yourself out.

I am basically really happy that i am not the only one who has experienced this. No one has told me that they thought i was cheating but in no way do i want to piss people off so this is a great thread to see what peoples thoughts are on this.

[Seagreen]

Uncon, we've dealt with those problems before. Nothing like kicking a guy out of a show when he's only been there an hour..and then posting who he was on the boards for the AAR.

Ignoring the guy is one way to deal with it, but that person still presents a safety hazard as well as a gameplay quality hazard for the event host.

[Catch22]

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007

Hackers. Yeah. You. I am talking to you.

You know who you are. I've watched you do it intentionally. I know shit happens, you honestly don't realize you've been hit, or whatever - I'm not calling out those people. I'm calling you out. Yeah, You. The ones who do it intentionally. I've called you out before. Unfortunately, I'll call you out again. I actually need to buy new goggles, that way they're not all fogged up when I'm trying to point out who you are to administrators. It was especially bad yesterday. Especially considering that as a zombie, I infected a few of you more than once . . . . . while you were displaying your 'antidote'. Usually can only identify what team you're with, instead of precisely who you are.

"Oh, we're just really aggressive players, so man up and deal with it . . . . " - I can hear your cum-dumpster flapping it out right now between wads of jizz. See, theres a difference between being an aggressive player, and being a piece of shit like you. I'm a pretty aggressive player myself, and I respect other aggressive players. I hold little piss-ants like you in contempt. You are worthless. You are lower than whale shit. When I look upon you, I am ashamed that we are both called airsofters, because you think you have to cheat in order to show how good you are.

Guess what. That makes your entire team look bad. So bad that I am really seriously thinking about uninviting entire teams to games that I run, and I really don't want to have to do that. I was talking to some of the other event hosts last night, and they're in a similar situation.

All because of you.

So pretty much, since you know who I'm talking to. You're on notice. Let me catch you half-stepping even once. I dare you. I double dare you. Think I wont eject your faggot cute kitty a$$ in a second? Try me. Go ahead and try me you little phony pony. I know who I can trust, and if they tell me that you're showing your douchebag to the world, I'll kick your a$$ out of my games based on their word. I'll even go one step further - I'll tell you to leave once, and if you think you're going to talk back or whatever . . . . . I'll place you under citizens arrest, and call the police and have you removed for trespassing. And believe me, I am enough of an asshole that I'll pursue it in court.

ORS 133.225, 164.205, 164.245, 164.255 and 164.265

[Unconventional]

Uncon, we've dealt with those problems before. Nothing like kicking a guy out of a show when he's only been there an hour..and then posting who he was on the boards for the AAR.

Ignoring the guy is one way to deal with it, but that person still presents a safety hazard as well as a gameplay quality hazard for the event host.

I concur. I've hosted events many times and I know what you go through. I guess I should have explained better. We don't just ignore the guy without letting him/her know what they are doing or what they aren't doing right as far as breaking rules..etc...they are warned and then if they start developing an attitude (non-threatening attitude..but a crappy attitude) during that particular event...they are ignored for quite a while on purpose and believe me it works as far as getting them to understand that they need to be more cooperative and understanding of the majority rule. Nobody likes the feeling of being left out..that's why it works in most of the cases we have.

Hope my son and I can make it up there some time to attend your events. Looks like a great time. Anxious to get out of Dodge for a while....

[OPFOR 503]

I've only played a few times but I've fortunately have alwasy been able to tell my hits. I also believe to call out when in doubt. For me if there's a conflict I'll just speak to a ref/admin and let that be the final decision.

Once I was shot directly on a hard plastic belt buckle, had it not been for the distinct noise I wouldn't have known because I didn't feel a thing.

I too fear not feeling the hit and being thought of as a cheater, that's the last thing I want.

[Zeta Crossfire]

I've always called my hits when I can, but there are times when I don't realize I've gotten hit. Maybe I'm shooting my gun and just don't hear it or I just don't feel it. I remember at LOW half way during the first game I ran foreword near the pink building and took cover behind some sandbags. After a few minutes of fighting Seagreen came over to me and said I was hit in the backpack. I didn't hear it, didn't feel it, but I was hit and then walked back to spawn.

I've seen a few times now of people getting hit and not realizing it and having the dude next to him not go off on the guy, but still yell at him. There are alot of people who hack and a lot of people who just sometimes don't feel it. Trying to figure out which might be difficult in the heat of the moment. Seeing someone get hit and them not calling it does not automatically means that he/she is hacking, chances are good that they are, but also theirs that possibility they just didn't feel it.

either way if you see a guy get hit and not call it tell him hes hit. See how he reacts THEN deal with him.

[CADPAT]

I've always called my hits when I can, but there are times when I don't realize I've gotten hit. Maybe I'm shooting my gun and just don't hear it or I just don't feel it. I remember at LOW half way during the first game I ran foreword near the pink building and took cover behind some sandbags. After a few minutes of fighting Seagreen came over to me and said I was hit in the backpack. I didn't hear it, didn't feel it, but I was hit and then walked back to spawn.

I've seen a few times now of people getting hit and not realizing it and having the dude next to him not go off on the guy, but still yell at him. There are alot of people who hack and a lot of people who just sometimes don't feel it. Trying to figure out which might be difficult in the heat of the moment. Seeing someone get hit and them not calling it does not automatically means that he/she is hacking, chances are good that they are, but also theirs that possibility they just didn't feel it.

either way if you see a guy get hit and not call it tell him hes hit. See how he reacts THEN deal with him.

+1

[K3Spice]

Maybe there should be some restrictions on gear though. Some people like to where gear that when hit has now way of indicating it. Some of you have mentioned wearing backpacks, and most of the time you don't need them. These backpacks can get hit and you don't know it. The same goes for a lot of gear. Most of the gear we wear is for looks more than usability. There should be some restrictions on gear as there is with camo in some games.

[Catch22]

Maybe there should be some restrictions on gear though. Some people like to where gear that when hit has now way of indicating it. Some of you have mentioned wearing backpacks, and most of the time you don't need them. These backpacks can get hit and you don't know it. The same goes for a lot of gear. Most of the gear we wear is for looks more than usability. There should be some restrictions on gear as there is with camo in some games.

I've seen way more hax wear... Jeans, tennis shoes, paintball masks, hoodies, just a woodland jacket, hi-cap stuck in back pocket or real tree camo... I think we should have restrictions against these.