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Postby Patterson » Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:13 pm

Nasty wrote:Same here. Like I said to Snowman, a good starting off point would be a mini-OP, something along the lines of 20 vs 20. You could definitely find 20 people who have good real world impressions (either Ranger, US Army, SEALs, etc). The OPFOR would be easy, as OPFOR is generally mismatched, except maybe in the Middle East.



Good call. For lack of a better term "COD:MW" style. Loadouts are key in my opinion.
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Postby Catch22 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:14 pm

I'd be happy with the US side being able to use certain camo and gear.(that is used by US forces) Plus they gotta wear a helmet when they leave their spawn or base. Also if their base gets attacked. They'd have to put on their helmet, before manning the defenses.

As for Opfor I'd pick a strick loadout aswell. If fighting insurgents or rebels. Then they have to dress like those would. (Jeans and a hoody wouldn't work)
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Postby Patterson » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:00 pm

Nasty wrote:More people want to be super awesome l33t COD Ghost Operators that regular infantry grunts.


I agree, and my guess is the cost. If someone was actually doing an Army infantry or Marine Corps infantry loadout, they would have to get the correct rigs (MBAVs, SPCs, etc.). The replica OTVs and MTVs are far more expensive than a Condor ModPC.
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Postby Catch22 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:04 pm

I'd let 'em rock a MW2 Ghost outfit. They'd just have to wear a helmet.
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Postby Patterson » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:09 pm

I've been trying to get a woodland TF141 loadout going. Can't figure out the rig though. LBT1961 in MC with gray/foliage hooded shell, comtacs, MICH2000/ACH.

Operator loadouts would work, they would need a trail of inspiration though, instead of just wearing camouflage bottoms, soft shell top, and random rigs.
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Postby Matt » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:11 pm

Nasty wrote:Same here. Like I said to Snowman, a good starting off point would be a mini-OP, something along the lines of 20 vs 20. You could definitely find 20 people who have good real world impressions (either Ranger, US Army, SEALs, etc). The OPFOR would be easy, as OPFOR is generally mismatched, except maybe in the Middle East.


OPFOR is usually done wrong. In most of the photos you see of insurgents or terrorists, not many of them have blue jeans and $200 hiking boots. The requirement to wear street cloths or "mix and match" rarely ever produces a realistic looking insurgent/hadji based OPFOR.
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Postby Blitzkreig » Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:53 pm

Yeah, I would really like to be in a uniform squad. Seeing a group of people in Multicam, MARPAT, and ACU's isn't the same as an army of ACU's and Marpat's.
It would be awesome to have a special forces group that would use Multicam (like in OP: Sabertooth) but I'm afraid that the number of people that own Multicam actually outnumber the people that own ACU's. And no one has desert MARPAT, which is the best.
I was thinking of having another mini-op like Butterfly Wings, only in present-day. MARPAT could be the camo for the Mexican Army, because isn't it similar to theirs?We need more events that aren't just US versus terrorists, because only Jewish Ninja likes wearing a man-dress.
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Postby Snowman » Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:01 pm

MARPAT's close to DCADPAT and the Mexicamo, I think.
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Postby nb » Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:04 pm

Blitzkreig wrote:We need more events that aren't just US versus terrorists


Agreed.
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Postby congofal » Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:26 pm

Most of the time i turn out as German or Swiss , i either kick a$$ or just stand around looking the other way :D
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Postby Darius137 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:30 pm

Nasty wrote:
Catch22 wrote:I'd be happy with the US side being able to use certain camo and gear.(that is used by US forces) Plus they gotta wear a helmet when they leave their spawn or base. Also if their base gets attacked. They'd have to put on their helmet, before manning the defenses.

As for Opfor I'd pick a strick loadout aswell. If fighting insurgents or rebels. Then they have to dress like those would. (Jeans and a hoody wouldn't work)


I would love to see this, but it would have to be done at mini-OPs first, because few people would want to do this. More people want to be super awesome l33t COD Ghost Operators that regular infantry grunts.

Awesome thing about an insurgent loadout is that it's so damn cheap. $50 for clothing, $20 for a Chicom or similar rig, and $15 for a pakol.


SF uses helmets and plate carriers. I think there is no real difference except that SF has beards and big muscles. Most people in AP have neither.

Also blouse your damn boots.
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Postby Darius137 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:32 pm

Matt wrote:
Nasty wrote:Same here. Like I said to Snowman, a good starting off point would be a mini-OP, something along the lines of 20 vs 20. You could definitely find 20 people who have good real world impressions (either Ranger, US Army, SEALs, etc). The OPFOR would be easy, as OPFOR is generally mismatched, except maybe in the Middle East.


OPFOR is usually done wrong. In most of the photos you see of insurgents or terrorists, not many of them have blue jeans and $200 hiking boots. The requirement to wear street cloths or "mix and match" rarely ever produces a realistic looking insurgent/hadji based OPFOR.


I give a +100 to this.

I put a discussion up on the CAG forums about doing an insurgent properly here: http://www.vivalapla.com/forum2/viewtop ... f=45&t=947


Basically, if you wear civilian clothes, don't have a modern or American logo on your clothes. It looks so unprofessional.
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Postby Blitzkreig » Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:01 pm

I just have a massive bias against Multicam, that's all. I actually think it should be on OPFOR, instead of the U.S.
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Postby Snowman » Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:09 pm

Blitzkreig wrote:I just have a massive bias against Multicam, that's all. I actually think it should be on OPFOR, instead of the U.S.


Yes, because we all know that all the OpFor we've come across actually wear Multicam under those robes.
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Postby Junto » Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:13 pm

Blitzkreig wrote:I just have a massive bias against Multicam, that's all. I actually think it should be on OPFOR, instead of the U.S.
But the Army is being issued multicam whether you like it or not. For a realistic impression multicam belongs with US. Don't like it? Alter reality.
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