Propper and the A-TACS

[Catch22]

Multicam was field tested along side UCP-Delta in Afghanistan, To see which would work better in afghanistan. The army chose it as the best camo to use in afghanistan.

You know when the Army picks their 3 new camo patterns. It is going to be camo, that no one else is using.

[Chefzilla]

The funny thing is that no camo is universal.
The Army had a new toy and they wanted t play with it. They thought that it looked cool and it did work when veiwing ACU through night vision goggles and that the U.S Army does most of its job at night.

I still don't understand the whole digital thing. I loved my woodland BDU's and they worked fantastic.

[Darius137]

Multicam was not chosen in the last test. It was not under the same intensity of review when it was selected as an interim camo for Afghanistan.

I thought it was field tested alongside UCP, UCP-D, as well as some other patterns, and it was found to be most effective, hence why it is being used now.

Also, I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that Multicam originally beat out UCP in the late 90's/early 2000's, but UCP was picked because it was more cost effective or something.

@Chefzilla, yes, the Army has changed patterns a lot since WWII, but most of those were building up to M81 Woodland, which the Armed Forces used for nearly 20 years. What I'd like to know is how much money as been, effectively, wasted on UCP. All the uniforms and equipment manufactured in UCP, only to begin to be replaced a few years after it's original issue. As for my MARPAT comment, it wasn't really serious. It was more to point out that the Marines developed a pattern with two versions, that is pretty damn effective, whereas the Army somehow figured that grey stormtrooper camo is "Universal".

In the initial tests there was no clear winner.

For the interim camo they tested a slightly-less-shitty form of UCP against Multicam.

They're making an open call now for the next round with a more realistic criteria for judging (no one camo is universal except that shit the Predator has). It's not that they're spending a lot of money doing these tests. The government is going to buy uniforms regardless. The person who makes the camo just wants that government contract so they design the best uniform. All these uniform switches aren't really horribly expensive (a few tests).

[Darius137]

All these uniform switches aren't really horribly expensive (a few tests).

Well to me what makes it expensive is that they spend God knows how much (billions?) making and issuing new uniforms and equipment, only to do it AGAIN 5 years later. Just seems like they could try to do it right the first time (like the Marines seem to have done), and put the money saved towards, I dunno, body armor or something else useful.

The difference of issuing new uniforms isn't that bad. They don't just throw away all the old ones and give everyone a thousand new uniforms.

They slowly phase in a new pattern. Just like how the Air Force new privates all have the ABU's and the old guys still wear woodland and baseball caps.

[Sahronax]

Perhaps it's just me, but this stuff reminds me remarkably of Italian Vegetato-style desert camo, especially when viewed more up-close:



Just sayin'...

[congofal]

To me Woodland A-TACS look very similar to Rebel Endor Camo

[RiotingCows]

I wonder if George Lucus has the rights to that.

Do they pictures of the woodland pattern up? I can only find the Desert and the "Urban" ones/

[Switch]

Nice! I know what I want for X-Mas now.

[Unconventional]

Fairly new info and great photo samples on the A-TACS camo:

http://www.itstactical.com/2010/11/14/p ... ve-photos/

[Jewish Ninja]

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[Snowman]

Propper combat shirt. Mmmmm....

[Blitzkreig]

Marpat is the bomb. I don't want to look like a three-year-old's butt, in woodland, arid, or desert!