An actual photo of the new NWU Woodland Uniform.

[Limpy]

This is the same pattern as Marpat. They turned the pattern verticle and replaced the Coyote Brown with OD Green

Ah. That makes more sense.

[Vegeta]

YAY Political Bullshit getting in the way of getting the troops they best they can get

[Limpy]

YAY Political Bullshit getting in the way of getting the troops they best they can get

....explain?

[Catch22]

[quote="Catch22"][quote]The Navy has finally dealt with the issue of adopting proper uniforms for its ground forces in light of the fielding of the new Navy Working Uniform and its associated blue digital camo pattern optimized for hiding stains. Rumors had long surfaced that the mysterious AOR patterns would be adopted Navy wide for instances when Sailors would require camouflage uniforms for land combat effectively making the patterns naval in nature rather than dedicated for special operations use. Rumors also stated that the patterns would be altered ever so slightly with the addition of the Navy’s Anchor Constitution Eagle (ACE) design (see para 2). Apparently they were true on both counts or at least, sort of. Interestingly, the “Type IIâ€

[Limpy]

Long post is long.

[Catch22]

Are you refering to my post Nasty? Because it has nothing to do with politics. It's just information.

Yes limpy sometimes information on a subject can be long. I really don't feel like condensing it and dumbing it down.

[Crimmins]

so what this makes... 7 uniforms possibilities in the Navy now? i can understand wanting to supply the Sailors with the right uniform but... this is not something you waste millions/billions of dollars on in a recession, when there are already other options on the table. this is something you do when you have a budget excess. yes troops on the ground should have a environmentally adequate uniforms. but at what cost, were to you draw the line in wasteful spending? When you change the base uniform you now change the supply chain. You have to begin replacing still serviceable uniform/equipment, like mag pouches, tac vest, ect, with the proper color. If one Soldier/Sailor is issued $10,000 worth of gear in one pattern then you change the pattern then you have to double, spend the 10K per Service Member (SM). 1 SM = $10K, 100 SM =$1million, 1000 SM = $10million
Final $.02 dose the Navy need a new uniform? Maybe. I thought the ones they had for the last 70+ years worked well for what they needed. Is this something you waste (yes waste) the taxpayers money “correctingâ€

[Solid]

Are you refering to my post Nasty? Because it has nothing to do with politics. It's just information.

Yes limpy sometimes information on a subject can be long. I really don't feel like condensing it and dumbing it down.

I was, but I thought you were posting that in support of Vegeta's confusing claim that it cause "Political Bullshit". Sorry for the confusion.

And Crimmins; it's the Navy. Their number one priority is looking better than all the other branches

Now if only the Army got rid of ACU...

[Eyes On]

I know you're joking Nasty, but it annoys the shit out of me. THEREFORE:

Actually, I think the #1 priority of the US Navy is providing support for shore bound operations, maintaining freedom of navigation on the seas, and performing force projection operations abroad as prescribed by the President of the United States. This includes providing that under appreciated fellow who will patch you up when you've been hit, or give you a roll of Tums when you've been out drinking tequila the night before a road march in 100 degree weather. Here-to-fore referred to as "The Corpsman" or "Doc". It also includes providing small, highly effective teams of certified USDA badass cold-as-ice cap busters who have done and are currently doing things you'll never hear about. Finally, that incorporates maintaining a group of highly skilled men and women who will, on request, place 500 to 2000lbs of high explosives within 10 feet of any specified location from 30,000 feet within 500 miles of the coastline on those who being naughty in my sight, shall snuff'eth.

I could be wrong though...

Reading the NAVADMIN, I don't see where FMF Corpsman would be authorized to wear this uniform. That's a good thing in my book, as Doc already tends to stand out enough roaming around with just a pistol and a wierd looking pack.

[Patrick750]

whoever is in charge of designing our camo isn't very creative.

[Catch22]

Are you refering to my post Nasty? Because it has nothing to do with politics. It's just information.

Yes limpy sometimes information on a subject can be long. I really don't feel like condensing it and dumbing it down.

I was, but I thought you were posting that in support of Vegeta's confusing claim that it cause "Political Bullshit". Sorry for the confusion.

And Crimmins; it's the Navy. Their number one priority is looking better than all the other branches

Now if only the Army got rid of ACU...

They're working on it.

The Army is seeking a family of three different camo patterns including woodland, desert and, transitional (sometime called universal), and one pattern for personal equipment (such as body armor, ammo pouches and rucksacks) which works with all three (3) uniform camouflage patterns.

http://soldiersystems.net/2010/06/30/army-camo-phase-iv/

[Crimmins]

the Army has already started fielding multicam to the next 4 BDE to move into afgh. as with the ACU fielding the priority goes to new units moving into country. units already in country are authorized to obtain/wear their own if the so chose but otherwise are not being issued multicam on a general issue bases. these uniforms are not authorized for use outside of OEF operational zones. as last i heard it there was no word yet to field it to the rest of the Army... but hopefully that S*&% changes

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/07/a ... m_071210w/


Is this a waste? No. ACU is a waste. The general, (who also help decide on the Army head gear change) pushed the change and spent all his political and military capital then after getting the uniformed changed promptly retired from the Armed forces. I think he now works for the DHS or something.

[Solid]

So what your saying is if I do end up going to Afghanistan in about a year or so, I'll be able to get my hands on some Multicam and wear that instead?

[Catch22]

Most likely
http://www.airsoftpacific.com/viewtopic.php?t=30252

[Solid]

Well that makes me feel better