echo 1 m4 platinum 11.1v lipo and outer barrel

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echo 1 m4 platinum 11.1v lipo and outer barrel

Postby StickMan » Tue May 11, 2010 8:52 pm

I have recently gotten an echo 1 m4 platinum and am planning on converting it to use an 11.1v lipo battery. I would like to know first off whether the stock electronics would be able to handle a battery of that size and if not, where to find some electronics that could. I already have the pig tail adapter with 12 gauge wiring to connect it to the battery. Any help would be great. Thanks.
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Postby league 4 » Tue May 11, 2010 8:56 pm

Deans is something you should always upgrade to, and helps with using lipo's a lot. A MOSFET is recommended, but you can do without. MOSFET's are very nice to have though. Otherwise, just make sure it's shimmed right, and the AoE is fixed. Get rid of the self shimming stuff from the VFC gears, mine got pretty scratched up from moving around on a lipo but they never stripped. I was using a really weak lipo though (11.1v 15c burst 4000mah).
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Postby StickMan » Tue May 11, 2010 9:23 pm

Thanks for the advice. I'll see if it works in a couple weeks.
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Postby SlasheI2 » Sun May 16, 2010 5:05 pm

If you use semi a lot then I suggest you invest in a MOSFET as there would be some serious electrical arcing. If you don't use semi as often then you should be fine for now.
And as the above poster stated, check your shimming and AOE and make sure nothing jams.
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Postby Cap n pickles » Sun May 16, 2010 5:32 pm

Why do you want a 11.1?

Why not a 7.4? its cheaper (around 9$ a piece) and the ROf is good enough to pay it down and not completely shazaam you're gun.
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Postby league 4 » Sun May 16, 2010 5:55 pm

Cap n pickles wrote:Why do you want a 11.1?

Why not a 7.4? its cheaper (around 9$ a piece) and the ROf is good enough to pay it down and not completely f**k you're gun.


Some people like high ROF's. IMO, it makes everything a lot more fun and a little more exciting to keep my guns at ~30rps.
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Postby CalvinB » Sun May 16, 2010 6:11 pm

what happened to semi and aiming
I DID NOT INVENT THE INTERNETS FOR THIS
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Postby StickMan » Sun May 16, 2010 7:02 pm

I'm planning on going semi, turning it into a sniper, but i'd like the high ROF to get out of nasty situations. The reason I'm using an 11.1v is because I had one before I got the gun. As for AoE, I think it should be good since the gun came with the second to last piston tooth missing. I'll probably post pictures of it tomorrow or tuesday after I finish converting the front end.
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Postby Cap n pickles » Sun May 16, 2010 11:27 pm

StickMan wrote:I'm planning on going semi, turning it into a sniper, but i'd like the high ROF to get out of nasty situations. The reason I'm using an 11.1v is because I had one before I got the gun. As for AoE, I think it should be good since the gun came with the second to last piston tooth missing. I'll probably post pictures of it tomorrow or tuesday after I finish converting the front end.


There are other things you can do to make it shoot semi... like nothing.

I highly suggest not using a 11.1, it will be the reason you show up to a game and go to chrono you're gun and you blow out a piston because you're ROF is faster than it needs to be. Make sure to read this thread when that happens.


Honestly , save money, and you're gun, Boycott 11.1 : )
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Postby StickMan » Mon May 17, 2010 9:33 am

Cap n pickles wrote:
StickMan wrote:I'm planning on going semi, turning it into a sniper, but i'd like the high ROF to get out of nasty situations. The reason I'm using an 11.1v is because I had one before I got the gun. As for AoE, I think it should be good since the gun came with the second to last piston tooth missing. I'll probably post pictures of it tomorrow or tuesday after I finish converting the front end.


There are other things you can do to make it shoot semi... like nothing.

I highly suggest not using a 11.1, it will be the reason you show up to a game and go to chrono you're gun and you blow out a piston because you're ROF is faster than it needs to be. Make sure to read this thread when that happens.


Honestly , save money, and you're gun, Boycott 11.1 : )


You know, I think I'm going to listen to the voice of reason and order a 7.4v lipo and mosfet next order I make. Definitely don't like the sound of breaking my gun. Thanks for the feedback, definitely appreciate it.
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Postby CommieHunter » Mon May 17, 2010 10:04 am

Or, you could ignore those who tout a single opinion as truth, so long as you realize there are both benefits and downsides to any choice.

An 11.1v will not break your gun with the rapidity and consistency as Captain Pickles claims. There are many AEGs that run reliably with an 11.1v lipo.
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Postby slipstream » Mon May 17, 2010 10:16 am

Caffeine and Rage wrote:Or, you could ignore those who tout a single opinion as truth, so long as you realize there are both benefits and downsides to any choice.

An 11.1v will not break your gun with the rapidity and consistency as Captain Pickles claims. There are many AEGs that run reliably with an 11.1v lipo.


Thank you C&R.

Example: I have been running my CA sportline M4 on 11.1v batteries for almost a year now without a single mechanical failure.
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Postby StickMan » Mon May 17, 2010 12:28 pm

Hey slipstream, what type of modifications did you make to support the lipo?
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Postby Cap n pickles » Mon May 17, 2010 1:45 pm

Caffeine and Rage wrote:Or, you could ignore those who tout a single opinion as truth, so long as you realize there are both benefits and downsides to any choice.

An 11.1v will not break your gun with the rapidity and consistency as Captain Pickles claims. There are many AEGs that run reliably with an 11.1v lipo.


Example, Lets say you're gun on a 7.4 will last 100,000 rounds.

Now, the 7.4 is pulling 12RPS on a M110 or m120, and pulling 16RPS on a 11.1

on a 7.4, that is 720 RPS per minute, on a 11.1 its 960.

Now, lets make the 100,000 rounds the breaking point in which you're back tooth snaps off, due to the extreme amount of rounds (Remember, a 7.4 is similar to the ROF of a 9.6v)

7.4 will last 138 minutes of firing
11.1 will last 104 minutes of firing

100,000 rounds is quite a long time, but a 11.1 does increase the chance's of the gun snapping the back tooth off quicker.

its an estimate, it all depends on the internals you have, and quality of them.

But a 11.1 will do damage quicker.

If you need that high of an ROF, then you are just covering up bad skill.

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Postby StickMan » Mon May 17, 2010 8:42 pm

Alright, even though this post was originally about batteries, it's going to shift towards outer barrels. I need to know if anyone has removed the outer barrel from the echo 1 m4 platinum. It's different than any other Echo 1 m4/m16 that I've ever looked at. I know that Echo 1 has a history of gluing on parts, but it looks like there is a hex bolt going upwards in the upper reciever. Any help would be great.
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