US Custom's Seizes "Machine Guns"

[G36 FTW]

Assuming you ever get the guns back, they'll probably be returned with significant damage. Bent barrels, missing pins, that sort of thing.

Don't forget mags that are jammed in backwards...

[TMiller]

the "guns" will be destroyed probably, you would be really lucky to actually get any of them back.

[Matt]

Hmm, OP Mad Dog footage. Cool. I missed this when it was posted because I was out at Faction Wars. Well, at least they showed both sides of the story. Sometimes the media gives us the short end of the stick.

[Rogue Reaper]

Anyone remeber a few years back when I confiscated a Full Auto IMI Uzi and 3 loaded magazines from a fellow and turned them over to Agent Roland with the ATF.

Since we got a Licence plate from the individules were arrested and adjudicated. The guy was chargesd with misdomenor unlawful possesion of a firearm and was given a small fine.

So its OK to have a full auto short barreled firearm with the serial numbers and import rolls ground off and 3 loaded mags for it if you have $100 to pay the fine but importing an airsoft rifle is terrorism.

[Bigfoot]

It seems to me that the ATFE agent in the news report probably knows more about the A and T than the F and E.

[Raging Hormann]

Very well put.

Been doing too much A and T to remember the F and E.

[Junto]

^^ Funny shit, right there. ^^

[KevinAtEvike]

I am 51 years old. I am Honorable Discharged Vet from the US Army. Prior to the time I entered the Army the M16 when used in VN to begin with was a piece of crap, the recievers cracked, the barrels warped. This came version two and the company tried to correct these mistakes in the steel they were using at the time.

Now here is the truth, there is absolutely no way whatsoever the WE could have been converted with the meal it was made of would have with out anydoubt crack apart because fo two ABSOLUTE reasons, Metal fatique, and heat. This would happen if some idiot tried to concert it over to a 22, let alone a 223 round would blow the gun up in his face if tried to convert a WE to that caliber. Now this is the truth. For whatever reason thi sbiycott has happend, it is not because the WE can actually be converted, there is an example being made for other erasons and using this as an excuse. As an American, I do not agree with it, but I Love and respect my country so I tolerate it as we do with some things because those things happen even in a country as great as ours. Most of the time it is for political reasons that we will probably never hear about.

As far as the WE company goes, they make great Airsoft products and I will still purchase them after they work this out with the US-ATF. As far as I am concerned they (WE) make's the best GBB rifle there is.
Now that is the truth.

[Snowman]

I am 51 years old. I am Honorable Discharged Vet from the US Army. Prior to the time I entered the Army the M16 when used in VN to begin with was a piece of crap, the recievers cracked, the barrels warped. This came version two and the company tried to correct these mistakes in the steel they were using at the time.

Now here is the truth, there is absolutely no way whatsoever the WE could have been converted with the meal it was made of would have with out anydoubt crack apart because fo two ABSOLUTE reasons, Metal fatique, and heat. This would happen if some idiot tried to concert it over to a 22, let alone a 223 round would blow the gun up in his face if tried to convert a WE to that caliber. Now this is the truth. For whatever reason thi sbiycott has happend, it is not because the WE can actually be converted, there is an example being made for other erasons and using this as an excuse. As an American, I do not agree with it, but I Love and respect my country so I tolerate it as we do with some things because those things happen even in a country as great as ours. Most of the time it is for political reasons that we will probably never hear about.

As far as the WE company goes, they make great Airsoft products and I will still purchase them after they work this out with the US-ATF. As far as I am concerned they (WE) make's the best GBB rifle there is.
Now that is the truth.

By far, they are not the best. And last I heard, BATFE destroyed the guns. What happened afterwards with AONW?

[KevinAtEvike]

Basically what I heard after the fact was. That the WE company has
re-tooled their castings for the recievers and I believe that corrected the problem. WETTI aka WE worked with the ATF and solved the issue. They should be back on the market soon with the new recievers and such.

Like I stated, I like WE the best. I understand that everyone has things they like and me I Ilike the WE GBB rifles the best. But that's me. They break down just right. Field clean them and keep steppin. A person could take that new WE PDW, add a couple pieces from RA-tech, use it for indoor or outdoor games. Very versatile. Mags can also be converted to hold more BB's. A person can make some nice changes with a WE for Airsoft when they know how. They will last forever if you take care of them. Have a great one people.

[k3gn3123512]

As far as I am concerned they (WE) make's the best GBB rifle there is.
Now that is the truth.

I respectfully disagree.

I would give Inokatsu and WA higher marks.

[CommieHunter]

As far as I am concerned they (WE) make's the best GBB rifle there is.
Now that is the truth.

I respectfully disagree.

I would give Inokatsu and WA higher marks.

Have you handled, worked on, shot, or had any first hand experience with either the Inokatsu or WA? On what basis do you claim that they are better?

[k3gn3123512]

As far as I am concerned they (WE) make's the best GBB rifle there is.
Now that is the truth.

I respectfully disagree.

I would give Inokatsu and WA higher marks.

Have you handled, worked on, shot, or had any first hand experience with either the Inokatsu or WA? On what basis do you claim that they are better?

I have shot all three brands.

The Inokatsu M4 SOP MOD0 had some of the best External construction of any airsoft rifle that I have ever held. Shooting it was a good experience too. WA just has slightly better construction then the WE. I don't remember exactly how I would compare them shooting wise though.

Overall I do not believe that the WE deserves to be designated as the best Gas Blow Back rifle brand/

[CommieHunter]

I would not designate the WE as the best brand, either. The WA, however, does have some downsides. Unless they improved it, I hear they had jamming issues with the open-bolt system. That can be fixed with aftermarket internals, though.

The biggest issue with the WE, in my opinion, is the trigger pack. The metal is so soft that it tends to wear out, and there's no replacements available, other than stock. I do like the fact that the WE is closer to milspec construction, so there's much easier availability of external parts for it.

[k3gn3123512]

I would not designate the WE as the best brand, either. The WA, however, does have some downsides. Unless they improved it, I hear they had jamming issues with the open-bolt system. That can be fixed with aftermarket internals, though.

The biggest issue with the WE, in my opinion, is the trigger pack. The metal is so soft that it tends to wear out, and there's no replacements available, other than stock. I do like the fact that the WE is closer to milspec construction, so there's much easier availability of external parts for it.

I had that problem not occur but I suppose I was lucky. But the Inokatsu was just amazing to shoot and hold.