Jump To Destiny June 5-7 2009

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Jump To Destiny June 5-7 2009

Postby RangerWarren » Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:09 pm

The War Department and Fallschirmjager Regt. 6 present:
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Jump to Destiny: A Clash Of Eagles
A WWII military simulation
June 5-7 2009
Randle, Washington
for more information: www.thewardept.org

In the early morning hours of June 6th, 1944 thousands of allied paratroopers filled the skies over Normandy as part of Operation Poseidon. This represented the airborne portion of the D-Day invasion. Despite bad weather, heavy ground fire and off-target drops the paratroopers fought on to victory.

Jump to Destiny is a three day historical military simulation based on the historic Operation Poseidon. It is designed to simulate the preparation and execution of the invasion of Normandy from both the American and German perspectives.

Jump training is provided by Airborne,Ranger and Special Forces qualified US Military personnel and a simulated drop kicks off the tactical portion of the event. Training is provided for both German and American units. American units will be trained in jump procedures, actions in the aircraft, airborne assault and assembly and authentic platoon tactics. German Units will focus on german language commands, anti-partisan operations, airborne operations (For Fallschirmjager Units) and authentic platoon tactics.

This event is combined Blank fire and airsoft. Both reenactors and airsoft players are encouraged to attend. Attendees will be fed and billeted in period fashion.
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Postby spankie » Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:06 pm

Airsofters and reenactors?
Seems a bit confusing.

One guy just has to point his gun at you and pull a trigger to say your dead and the airsofter still has to hit him with bbs.....

Seems interesting tho
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Postby m3chanized » Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:25 pm

awesome!
jtd round 2 :badgrin:
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Postby LettuceHead » Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:33 pm

I'm assuming there will be a unit of British Paras again as well? Because that's the impression I've been building for this!

Can't wait!
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Postby m3chanized » Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:43 pm

there were definitely British Paras last year ;)
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Postby spankie » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:51 pm

Wait how do u have reenactors and airsofters; whats the rules on that....
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Postby Klaus272ID » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:04 pm

spankie wrote:Wait how do u have reenactors and airsofters; whats the rules on that....


Airsoft trumps blank fire. Blank fire is used more at range, and does a fabulous job of creating sound and adds well to the excitement.
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Postby spankie » Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:15 am

Klaus272ID wrote:
spankie wrote:Wait how do u have reenactors and airsofters; whats the rules on that....


Airsoft trumps blank fire. Blank fire is used more at range, and does a fabulous job of creating sound and adds well to the excitement.


Im talking about the "out" system... How would a guy firing blanks get an airsofter out. I mean you can feel bbs but blanks don't shot anything because it would injur the person you aim it at.
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Postby ScottJ » Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:47 pm

I see lots of good questions and curriosity about how we mix airsoft and blank fire. I'll try to explain it a little bit.

What we offer at our events is a unique blending of airsoft and blank fire which along with the living history aspects create a highly immersive experience. It's very differnt from the types of events that most players are used to. We acknowledge that it probalby won't appeal to everyone. To a certain group however, it's just what they've been looking for.

We've run a number of events combining airsoft and blank fire and continue to refine the rules. I too was skeptical at first, but we are now to the point where it works quite well. While i won't go into the specific details here, like airsoft, it requires a large degree of honor from the participants to "take the hit" when approrpriate. We provide guidelines, and it's up to the participants to "do the right thing". There no ref to call hits.

In airsoft, there is nothing to stop a platoon from moving accross 100 or 200m of open terain. Airsoft just doesn't have the range. You often end up with guys milling around in the open as well. In our events, blank fire would be used to prevent the same platoon from crossing the open area. Same with guys standaing around, as they too would be exposed. If you are in the open, and you are fired on the most exposed person take the hit. If it's a large volume of fire, then more take hits. As long as you are behind cover, you are safe. So if the platoon in the example above is half way accross the field when they are fired on, they'd end up having to go to ground or end up being "hit".

The end result is that it significantly changes the mindset of players. Guys take a knee or go prone when they aren't moving. When they are moving, they use cover, concealment and terrain to better mask their movement than they normally would, because the "effective" range is increaesd significantly. Blank fire becomes very effective at forcing suppression.

Once you move within the effective range of AEGs, then airsoft "trumps" blank fire as Klaus272 explained. You then have bb's bouncing around and people actually being hit as they assualt the objective. Of course if you are in the open and you see the muzzle flash of a blank fire weapon, you'd also take the hit.

So, you end up with the best of both worlds - the sights and sounds of blank fire and the close quarters adreneline rush of airsoft. We look for a ratio of about 1 blank fire to every 5 or 6 airsoft weapons. Essentally we try to pair one or more blank fire weapons with every manuver element if possible. We utilize the same safety guidelines as at blank fire tactical events.

Like I said earlier, it's not for everyone, but if you are into stepping back in time, team work and operating at the squad and platoon level to accomplish objectives, you just might like it. Guys who like to lone wolf it and rack up high body counts (which there is nothing at all wrong with) probably won't enjoy it as much. As our hobby evolves and more people get involved, it allows us to branch out and try new things.
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Postby McNair » Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:51 pm

sounds interesting. Wish I still had all my reenacting gear.
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Postby Chefzilla » Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:11 pm

Damn, why did you go an change the date!?! I won't he able to attend this one after all.
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Postby LettuceHead » Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:48 pm

Hmmmm... it would be pretty easy to get my hands on a No. 4 Lee-Enfield for blank fire. I just might do that!

Where can I find the regulations regarding blank fire weapons? Can they be real steel or non-firing blank replicas only?
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Postby spencerman » Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:55 pm

They can be either.
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Postby McNair » Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:23 pm

LettuceHead wrote:Hmmmm... it would be pretty easy to get my hands on a No. 4 Lee-Enfield for blank fire. I just might do that!

Where can I find the regulations regarding blank fire weapons? Can they be real steel or non-firing blank replicas only?


pretty easy. with the bolt action, you don't need the barrel plug.
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Postby Brenth » Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:07 pm

I would love to go. Also if I can get a gun do you think I could rent a Uniform?
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