CQC6 Competition: July 21-22 (1 slot left)

[Matt]

PREPAY LIST UPDATED! To confirm your payment, check the list on the first post of this thread. In most cases I used the name listed in the "notes" field for payment, but if you don't see yourself on the list just double check using the name on your paypal account (if your account belongs to a family member, for example).

Payment options after today: You can still pay $45 via paypal to payments@airsoftpacific.com if you don't want to hassle with it at the event. Otherwise, you can also pay $45 in cash at the location of the event. We need to verify all stack members have paid and signed a waiver before allowing you to start your rounds.

Thanks!

[Raging Hormann]

Any input on my idea for LL/Breaching having alternate types of shells?

[Pope_Alex_Kaeda_I]

Any input on my idea for LL/Breaching having alternate types of shells?

What if we have the less lethal shells wrapped in blue tape, and then we have different shells for breaching, would this be ok?

No. Less lethal shotguns need to be obviously marked. Even PDs do this, for safety so that they know the difference between a less lethal and a normal duty shotgun.

Just to clarify; WE ARE NOT SHOOTING ACTUAL BEAN BAGS OR ANY TYPE OF LESS LETHAL ROUND. You're just using a regular Airsoft shotgun MARKED as less lethal and shooting Airsoft BBs from it. For an actor to KNOW this and react accordingly even if he's facing his back to you, you need to declare less lethal when you fire AND have the weapon marked.

[Raging Hormann]

Less lethal shotguns need to be obviously marked. Even PDs do this, for safety so that they know the difference between a less lethal and a normal duty shotgun.

Just to clarify; WE ARE NOT SHOOTING ACTUAL BEAN BAGS OR ANY TYPE OF LESS LETHAL ROUND. You're just using a regular Airsoft shotgun MARKED as less lethal and shooting Airsoft BBs from it. For an actor to KNOW this and react accordingly even if he's facing his back to you, you need to declare less lethal when you fire AND have the weapon marked.

The difference is the shells. Why can't we4 use it for breaching?
I want to know about breaching, not about lethal. I want to use the same gun for breaching and for LL. I don't have two shotguns.

[Knuckles]

The question has been answered, sport.

You can't beacuse The Man said so.

LE dep'ts use a CLEARLY IDNETIFIABLE shotgun to fire their LL rounds. They do not use their bag guns to avon doors. It's that simple.

Two solutions are available to your predicament. One) Buy a second shotgun for breaching. Two) HTFU, roll with what you've got and quit whining.

[Seagreen]

At this time there is a division line between breaching (lethal) shotguns and L/L shotguns.

Actors can't differenciate between LL and Breach....other than the replica they see being pointed at them. So, to clarify....carry two guages or choose your poison.

Blue barrel or blaze/blue furniture. It will not be accepted any other way. If you try to pull a sneakysnake, the replica will simply be determined to be lethal.

I'm sorry this doesnt meet your personal expectation, but it is the only way at this point we can accurately score and administrate these types of weapons.

[dune.c]

can we use a cheapo shotty painted blue or does it have to be a weapon of quality.

[Wickers]

can we use a cheapo shotty painted blue or does it have to be a weapon of quality.

Yes, the shotty can be cheap, it does not have to be of "quality". The 5RAC uses UTG shotties.. fancy, I know.

[omega1]

Less lethal shotguns need to be obviously marked. Even PDs do this, for safety so that they know the difference between a less lethal and a normal duty shotgun.

Just to clarify; WE ARE NOT SHOOTING ACTUAL BEAN BAGS OR ANY TYPE OF LESS LETHAL ROUND. You're just using a regular Airsoft shotgun MARKED as less lethal and shooting Airsoft BBs from it. For an actor to KNOW this and react accordingly even if he's facing his back to you, you need to declare less lethal when you fire AND have the weapon marked.

The difference is the shells. Why can't we4 use it for breaching?
I want to know about breaching, not about lethal. I want to use the same gun for breaching and for LL. I don't have two shotguns.

Think of it this way: in terms of reality, if you load a shotgun with both L/L rounds and breach rounds, are you really going to want to have to keep track of which one is in the pipe at any moment? So you stagger them, one L/L, one breach, one L/L, etc. And you put one beanbag into a guy, said guy doesn't go down, what are you gonna do now? Hit him with a breach round? Yeah, that wouldn't get the brass's undies in a bundle.

As Bill said, you either need to go to Walmart and get a cheapo shottie for breaching, or decide what is more important to you.

As Kendo asked previously, do we have to fire actual shots with the breach gun, or can we keep it empty, or just simulate it?

And as someone else asked, do we supply our own vehicles for the VIP scenario, or are they provided?

[Raging Hormann]

Alrighty then, I guess I'll have to be a people pleaser and just go with breaching, but as for the shell thing you mentioned, What I would personally do is carry breaching and LL rounds and when I encountered a door, only then would I load as many as required to take down the door, so that's what I would do, but I guess that's not ok.

[Pope_Alex_Kaeda_I]

Alrighty then, I guess I'll have to be a people pleaser and just go with breaching, but as for the shell thing you mentioned, What I would personally do is carry breaching and LL rounds and when I encountered a door, only then would I load as many as required to take down the door, so that's what I would do, but I guess that's not ok.

Out in the real world, it dosent work that way. Out in the real world, changing shell-loads takes time, and you dont have time to wait once you start kicking down doors.

[Capt DOA]

I hate to annouce this, but i will not be able to make it to CQC6 with WAR, i have two Funnels to attend and one falls on the weekend of the event

[Raging Hormann]

As Kendo asked previously, do we have to fire actual shots with the breach gun, or can we keep it empty, or just simulate it?

And as someone else asked, do we supply our own vehicles for the VIP scenario, or are they provided?

hehe, DRAT tactical Shortbus...

[GungHo06]

Do hits to the helmet count?

I didnt see anything about them.

[Jackal_Black_126]

Why wouldn't it.