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Re: next time

Postby McNair » Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:24 am

RangerWarren wrote:I will try to order more rain for next time. I dont think we had enough.


that rain wasn't shit.
When i did ww2 reenacting at camp rilea on the coast, it was straight downpour for much of the time.
You would fight your damnedest to get into the "town" so you could be in the buildings and out of the rain.

Of course, british wool trousers and a para smock are a bit warmer than some od bdu's ;)


Also, I've had a few airsoft games in straight downpour.
All engagements were happening 30 ft from each other because the rain would 'eff up the rounds any farther than that.
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Postby RangerWarren » Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:29 am

i was thinking i would order up a thunderstorm and hold the next event on a tank training range. Seriously though i am constantly suprised at the people who attend our events. When i first got in to airsoft i was running events at NW Tactical (CQB facility) having just got out of 2nd Ranger Bn I thought everyone who wasn't a Ranger from 2/75 was a fag and especially dudes who shot fake guns at each other. Now 2 years later and several events under the belt i am always pleasantly suprised to see airsofters harden the shazaam up and press on in austere conditions. Whether it's Recondo students not sleeping or GS3 players making realisticly scaled tactical movements between objectives in rain bad enough they should all be scuba qualified I continue to be impressed by the people in this hobby.
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Re: thinking

Postby Nightshade » Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:26 am

RangerWarren wrote:When i first got in to airsoft i was running events at NW Tactical (CQB facility) having just got out of 2nd Ranger Bn I thought everyone who wasn't a Ranger from 2/75 was a fag and especially dudes who shot fake guns at each other. Now 2 years later and several events under the belt i am always pleasantly suprised to see airsofters harden the f**k up and press on in austere conditions. Whether it's Recondo students not sleeping or GS3 players making realisticly scaled tactical movements between objectives in rain bad enough they should all be scuba qualified I continue to be impressed by the people in this hobby.

Thank you for your praise, Warren. It was meeting and interacting with people like you when I was younger that got me to join the Army in the first place.
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Postby Lil' Buddha » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:49 am

The suck factor often makes for some of the best stories. How often have you heard, "No s%*&, there I was..."

Helmutt, you run great events. And I have no problem if you make money doing them. What most people don't get is that the quality of airsoft will go up if promoters make money. I don't know how many times I heard people phony pony about tuition at my MMA school. But then, now we are on MSNBC, Fox, and we have fighters fighting all around the country who can train full-time because they get paid. That would not have happened without full-time professional gyms and $$ making fight cards. Inject the possibility of making a living doing something, and that thing will usually get better.

You know what really gets my panties in a bunch the most about this event? That we got held up by the PMC Backstabbers on our way to block the MIG exfil. :evil: That would have been a great scenario to be in on.
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Postby Knuckles » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:55 am

Steve, if that were multi-cam in that truck insted of flectarn, we would never have given you the chance to dismount as we know YOU would have never given us the opportunity to make it out.

I had a seriously good time. I still have a silly-ass grin on my face, and I am still sore and limping.

When's the next one!
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Postby Cobol » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:58 am

PM'd Warren, Hellmutt, if you have an e-mail address I could send an AAR to, let me know, I've got a fairly detailed one for the 1-1.
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Postby Knuckles » Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:06 am

The Duke wrote:All negotiations that I was in were all very intense, especially the last one regarding the PMC's who had one of our regen flags. As I walked down, I heard Knuckles say that were gonna just waste them...Man, I really wanted to take 'em down.


Those guys will NEVER know how close they came to being spanked. As I looked around, not ONE of them was on-guard. All weapons were slung, hands off or in pockets or putting food in their mouths. NOT ONE had their gun ready. I turned to look at you and the 1-1 behind me, and I see EVERYONE with guns at a high ready, safetys off, finders at the ready and eyeballs indexing threats. That smug-assed PMC commander just really never knew how close he came.

When the time did come to make the exchange, I handed him the money, took my flag and as I snatched it out of his hands I told him "You'll never know how close you came...I wanted to shoot you." and I turned and walked away without a word from him.

I REALLY did want to shoot him...
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Postby Cobol » Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:28 am

Yeah, that was intense, as Knuckles was approaching for the negotiation I was making sure everyone had a designated target and was at ready. Every single one of the PMC's was covered at least once, maybe twice by the group around them. They completely surrounded by the 1-1 and other random elements that looked like they were just milling around but were in fact fully prepared to execute every single one of the PMC's if the word go if Knuckles so much as turned around and walked away.
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Postby Buttons » Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:35 am

Thats because we were already hired by your men. We were just waiting for our money. As for getting the Regen flag, well, seems your boys didn't even bother to try and get it from the dead MTNF. :roll: Seems a SMUG PMC commander managed to trade an HLZ marker for that there Regen flag. As for not being on guard, seeing as you'd be killing your own hired guns, not too much to be concerned with. Especially given the intel that was already gathered on your location.

Wonder how much the MTNF would have paid for that.
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Postby Knuckles » Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:46 am

Hrmmm....Pay you 4 million Swiss....or kill your worthless asses and take it from you. I'm with Ben. The only good PMC is a dead PMC when in a Battlesim game.

Next time I won't hesitate to drop the hammer.
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Postby McNair » Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:05 pm

The problem w/ the PMC's is there were multiple groups.
We'd hire one, and then another would shoot at us.
We thought they were all the same, so we were a little ruffled.
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Postby Buttons » Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:19 pm

Knuckles wrote:Hrmmm....Pay you 4 million Swiss....or kill your worthless asses and take it from you. I'm with Ben. The only good PMC is a dead PMC when in a Battlesim game.

Next time I won't hesitate to drop the hammer.

And then lose 6 shooters, give MTNF the High Value target's locations, lose your weapons cache, and have pissed off PMCs on your doorstep. :roll: Given the standing orders from the PMC briefing, we wouldn't have even had a contract in the first place. Only OC involvement allowed you access to our services.

Unlike certain PMC groups, we didn't betray or break our contracts. We must be worthless if we can convince MTNF to turn on and wipe out a PMC group, then evac both our VIP and your initial squad for the gun exchange. Or convince a truckload of MTNF that the guys openly brandishing weapons, in the uniforms of the MIG are really just normal civilians, so that they hop back in their truck. Yep.
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Postby Knuckles » Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:08 pm

Meh, the only time I ever saw you guys was when you were shooting at us. Wasn't you, you say? Doesn't matter to me, the 1-1 identified anything other than OD as a target of opportunity. You 6 guns (as sexy as you were) were nothing in comparrison to the fearsome wrath wrought by the 1-1 Commandos. I honor your honor (was that you, the commander Buttons?) and if you say you didn't turn, then I believe you, but in all honesty WE did turn on people...because we were the bad guys. We wore the black hats. :D
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Postby Buttons » Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:14 pm

Nope. We didn't turn on anyone until they turned on us. Once our contract with you ended, following the retaking of the MIG camp, we stuck around for the MIG to see if you wanted to renegotiate. When Cobol friendly-fired us, that ended any chance of having a new contract in our book. Besides... It's not smugness, when it's true. :P
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Postby Knuckles » Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:15 pm

I like you. :D
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