Re-enacting S.W.A.T.

[Kendodude]

on that picture with the brass flying, it is flying from the wrong side.

Shut up noob, it looks cool.

[Matt]

Im not saying that a bunch of gadgets arent necesarry, they just have this look to them that doesnt look real to me. they just look too hollywood, and they should make a video of an actual competition instead of using some stupid staged garbage to shock and awe some people.

Heres the patch I saw
http://www.geocities.com/tazcou1/images/image.gif



And since we are kind of on note, I think APs CQC events should have enemies spread out through the building instead of a few actors.(I could be wrong because ive only seen videos)

The CQC comp isn't a turkey shoot. It's not just about shooting people for the sake of killing them. The point is, you don't know who's friend or foe. It's not speedball, and it's not for everyone.

[RedPiano]

Im not trying to be a thorn dantes, im just saying that atleast in the videos it looks like its just a team walking through and shooting one group of people in one room.

Thats why I said I could be wrong.

[Livengood]

Im not trying to be a thorn dantes, im just saying that atleast in the videos it looks like its just a team walking through and shooting one group of people in one room.

Thats why I said I could be wrong.

You are wrong. There are different scenarios. Some scenarios dont involve firing one round but the objective is to take the bad guys into custody. And if one of them pulls a gun, then the team that is clearing has to take them down. It is a lot more about thinking with your brain instead of with your trigger finger.

[Seagreen]

The videos can be misleading because of consistent action shots being taken. I can see what you thinking, just think of the videos as a highlights reel. Much of the team movement has been omitted, while the action sequences in general get the center stage. If you watch the videos again, consider that the few seconds you see each team dump a room, another 60 minutes of time is involved with movement and planning for each team, per scenerio. That may help put a better perspective on it.


I hope any of you interested in participating in a CQC event will consider ours. Very few rounds are expended, but a whole lot of threat processing takes place. I guess that is the allure to it. The uncertainty of what will unfold throughout the scenerio is what makes this type of event special to me.

As far as their gear choice, there isn't much I would consider unneccessary as far as competition goes. Augmentation, not excess.

Sure, the photos are staged, but c'mon man admit they are excellent photos.

[Livengood]

Sure, the photos are staged, but c'mon man admit they are excellent photos.

QFT

[RedPiano]

The videos can be misleading because of consistent action shots being taken. I can see what you thinking, just think of the videos as a highlights reel. Much of the team movement has been omitted, while the action sequences in general get the center stage. If you watch the videos again, consider that the few seconds you see each team dump a room, another 60 minutes of time is involved with movement and planning for each team, per scenerio. That may help put a better perspective on it.


I hope any of you interested in participating in a CQC event will consider ours. Very few rounds are expended, but a whole lot of threat processing takes place. I guess that is the allure to it. The uncertainty of what will unfold throughout the scenerio is what makes this type of event special to me.

As far as their gear choice, there isn't much I would consider unneccessary as far as competition goes. Augmentation, not excess.

Sure, the photos are staged, but c'mon man admit they are excellent photos.

Okay I understand that the videos are shorter than the actual event, maybe I used wrong wording but I mean that there is only one room ever seen cleared for each mission. I have only seen one time(aside from the crackhouse games) where you run into some guys while your on the way to the "main objective". I have no doubt in my mind that the CQC events are great, its just like you are walking straight to the objective with no resistance on the way, but once again I may and probably am wrong.

I love the videos they are great, I have seen several idiots mistake them for real life videos not airsoft.

As for the photos being cool, they are very cool despite the little mistakes.
But its that they said "how germany plays airsoft" or whatever I cant remember that bugs me.

[Tombstone]

Sure, the photos are staged, but c'mon man admit they are excellent photos.

QFT

+1
After all, my first airsoft advice was "80% of airsoft is lookin cool" These guys definatly pull of that cool look. Great Camera work and excellent photoshop skillz.

[Seagreen]

I guess I'm not tracking what you are saying about intermittent or interspersed threats/non-threats throughout the scenerios. They are there, they just don't get the film time like central points.

The only way to experience the event is to participate, sorta like anything. If you do it, it'll answer the questions under the truest scrutiny: under stress.

If more teams would adopt extremely standardized loadouts, it would make for even better event footage. Mismatched gear versus matching kit....matching kit always looks better!...hence the reason the posted pictures of this thread are getting so much attention.

[Catch22]

Okay I understand that the videos are shorter than the actual event, maybe I used wrong wording but I mean that there is only one room ever seen cleared for each mission. I have only seen one time(aside from the crackhouse games) where you run into some guys while your on the way to the "main objective". I have no doubt in my mind that the CQC events are great, its just like you are walking straight to the objective with no resistance on the way, but once again I may and probably am wrong.

....

This is a map of the third floor at SZ where CQC 4 and 5 took place.

It's more than just going into clear one room. At CQC 5, teams had to search the whole building looking for a Cult leader, his devoted second in command, a traumatized hostage. While dealing with all the crazy cult members, most were just brainwashed(and would comply with orders given by teams). While others were ready to die for their cause.

CQC events are very well thought out and have alot of rules. This means the teams and armed actors don't just blast away at everything that moves. It's a long process for an actor to finally get to the point where he's shooting directly at the teams. Teams should only kill those they percieve to be an imminent threat.

I've competed, acted and did admin work in 4 CQC events. You don't get points for kills. The only way to win is by doing the job right.

[RedPiano]

Okay, thats the only complaint I had. I also understand that its not about the kills, I wordered that wrong when I said it too.

But like I said before I was probably wrong because ive never experienced it.

Nice pictures.

[KA-BAR]

thier kit looks awfully tight, i like the blue/black. alot. too bad all black seirra event staff uniforms are now blue. or i would have a kit resembleing this or very close. but now it looks too much like the admins will. looks like ill be wearing a blue suit either way...LOL.










KA-BAR out

[ASTC Shadow]

Hi guys! This is real CQC :

[Tombstone]

There is some serious man-rule violation goin on there.

[dr.feelgood]

Its MAN LAW!!!