AOR worth it's weight in gold? Good in Oregon?

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Re: AOR worth it's weight in gold? Good in Oregon?

Postby Darius137 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:15 am

Dexter(Battlefield) wrote:I am strongly considering AOR2 for my next loadout. Can anyone give me their opinion on the camo? Is it more or less effective than MultiCam in wooded environments? I am set on combat uniforms only, none of the jacket/pants w/out pads stuff. I am willing to buy ACM if necessary as well. So price isn't as much an issue as it could be.

I will not wear MARPAT. I would feel odd wearing a camo made only for Marines, especially if it had the EGA symbol in it.


1.) Not worth its weight in gold. Any uniform will get worn and used, and lose all resale value. Also most people play based on camouflage schemes, so if you like it, get it, but if you don't have a preference, get one of the standard patterns so you can play at larger games.

2.) I don't see why you'd feel odd wearing a camouflage made only for the Marines, but wouldn't mind wearing a camouflage made only for the navy SEALs and their assistants.

3.) It does not work that well. It is green, and digital with color differences, so it works. And it's not tan-based, so it works better than Multicam. But it is a copy of the Canadian digital pattern, and when the Marines chose a new pattern, they chose MARPAT over AOR2/NWU3/Green digi-seaweed.

4.) If you feel bad about wearing MARPAT because of the EGA, then the Navy symbol is in real AOR2. If you get real AOR2, it's not authorized for civilians to have. If you have a clone of real AOR2, then you're using gear made by Chinese who stole American military intellectual property.


With all that being said, it doesn't look half bad, and there are a ton of cheap places coming out with it due to SEAL popularity.
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Re: AOR worth it's weight in gold? Good in Oregon?

Postby Snowman » Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:38 am

lol, mfw that one guy in Lakewood said the USAF logo is on ABUs.

In regards to what Dan said, the thing is that with AOR uniforms, be it 1 or 2, it will retain it's value somewhat, even if it's very used.

And what? Not authorized for civilians to have?

k. I think you mean "buy from manufacturers", which is not the same thing at all.
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Re: AOR worth it's weight in gold? Good in Oregon?

Postby Darius137 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:42 pm

Snowman wrote:lol, mfw that one guy in Lakewood said the USAF logo is on ABUs.

In regards to what Dan said, the thing is that with AOR uniforms, be it 1 or 2, it will retain it's value somewhat, even if it's very used.

And what? Not authorized for civilians to have?

k. I think you mean "buy from manufacturers", which is not the same thing at all.



http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/10C45.txt

Technically not able to wear the uniform or any distinctive military item.


I think AOR 1/2 retain value now because they're new, but in a couple years, they should be about the same as other branch uniforms.
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Re: AOR worth it's weight in gold? Good in Oregon?

Postby ogrejager » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:00 pm

Darius137 wrote:I think AOR 1/2 retain value now because they're new, but in a couple years, they should be about the same as other branch uniforms.


Remember how high multicam was when it first came out?
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Re: AOR worth it's weight in gold? Good in Oregon?

Postby Snowman » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:09 pm

Alright, the term "uniform" is a misnomer. In airsoft, we don't wear uniforms. We wear utilities, clothing. It's only a uniform if worn as such, with all required uniform items, IE, patches, tapes, accessories, etc.

Thus, we are not wearing uniforms, but utilities, thus, the code you linked is non-applicable.
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Re: AOR worth it's weight in gold? Good in Oregon?

Postby Darius137 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:13 pm

Snowman wrote:Alright, the term "uniform" is a misnomer. In airsoft, we don't wear uniforms. We wear utilities, clothing. It's only a uniform if worn as such, with all required uniform items, IE, patches, tapes, accessories, etc.

Thus, we are not wearing uniforms, but utilities, thus, the code you linked is non-applicable.


The link included "GROUND COMBAT AND CAMOUFLAGE UTILITY UNIFORMS".

And with the USN / USMC emblem in the uniform, it counts, technically. Hence they aren't being sold to civilians. But just like jay walking and marital rape, they are so commonly ignored that nobody prosecutes.



And yes. Multicam was expensive as hell a while ago. All uniforms just jumped due to logistics and the price of transportation and production, but the naval digi patterns will head that way soon enough.
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Re: AOR worth it's weight in gold? Good in Oregon?

Postby icebullet » Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:16 pm

Do note that Multicam is a privately funded camouflage, whereas AOR1/AOR2, MARPAT, UCP, and ABU are all government tested and funded.

Multicam is/was easy to produce, because it only required the authorization from Crye Precision, because it's privately funded. But I'm going to assume that when Multicam first appeared, it was expensive because it was in a trial state, manufactured by one company, and very little had been produced, along with the fact that it was in high demand, and still is.

AOR's however, the fabric is, (IIRC) made up in a small factory in Rhode Island with very small production runs and it's a highly secretive process. Then the fabric is shipped out to Virginia, to be sewn into plate carriers and pouches.

Eventually we'll get to the point where AOR1/AOR2 is on par with Multicam prices, but that could vary for years. I haven't been in the gear collecting area for too long, so I'm just going off of what others have said.
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Re: AOR worth it's weight in gold? Good in Oregon?

Postby Ivan Daylovich™ » Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:44 pm

icebullet wrote:AOR's however, the fabric is, (IIRC) made up in a small factory in Rhode Island with very small production runs and it's a highly secretive process.


The secret process of dying MARPAT slightly green?
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Re: AOR worth it's weight in gold? Good in Oregon?

Postby icebullet » Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:55 pm

Ivan Daylovich™ wrote:
icebullet wrote:AOR's however, the fabric is, (IIRC) made up in a small factory in Rhode Island with very small production runs and it's a highly secretive process.


The secret process of dying MARPAT slightly green?


Sure, the pattern may be a little different color, but because it's for Navy SEALs, it's worth more, and it's also under wraps.

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Re: AOR worth it's weight in gold? Good in Oregon?

Postby Nark » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:40 pm

Jewish Ninja wrote:http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=268069569970521&set=a.268069536637191.56310.267963619981116&type=3&theater

NWU III top on the left, JK Army version on the rights.

Comparing them in person, they are spot on in terms of coloring and pattern. The pattern looks more like MARPAT when it's wet/soaked with sweat.


It looks like the NWUIII on the left is a lot more green then the JK Army versions. Or is it just me :/
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Re: AOR worth it's weight in gold? Good in Oregon?

Postby pulsipher » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:00 pm

Welshy McSheeplove wrote:
Darius137 wrote:I think AOR 1/2 retain value now because they're new, but in a couple years, they should be about the same as other branch uniforms.


Doubt it, since real AOR1/2 uniforms have been hitting the market for several years now, and are still fetching $700-1000 a set.

the second propper or truspec makes a set the value will take a dump. stay tuned
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Re: AOR worth it's weight in gold? Good in Oregon?

Postby Jewish Ninja » Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:51 am

Nark wrote:
Jewish Ninja wrote:http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=268069569970521&set=a.268069536637191.56310.267963619981116&type=3&theater

NWU III top on the left, JK Army version on the rights.

Comparing them in person, they are spot on in terms of coloring and pattern. The pattern looks more like MARPAT when it's wet/soaked with sweat.


It looks like the NWUIII on the left is a lot more green then the JK Army versions. Or is it just me :/



It's not the best picture, but it's the only one I had. They are very close in person, but that picture was taken after 2~ hours of CQC so there's other factors at play (mainly loads of hot man sweat).
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Re: AOR worth it's weight in gold? Good in Oregon?

Postby McNair » Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:00 am

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Re: AOR worth it's weight in gold? Good in Oregon?

Postby pulsipher » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:59 am

I feel like theres a lot of feelings in this thread trying to justify a $1000 plate carrier
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Re: AOR worth it's weight in gold? Good in Oregon?

Postby McNair » Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:26 am

pulsipher wrote:I feel like theres a lot of feelings in this thread trying to justify a $1000 plate carrier



This shit right here.
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