Tactical vest

[Hamster]

i think i am just gonna go with the voodoo one after looking over the advice i am probably gonna save money just buying the vest without the hydration pack thanks for the help everyone who answered and have a nice day.

No. Just, no. You are not. Water is an important aspect of your gear.

A condor hydro carrier with a bladder runs at thirty bucks, the same price as a Camelbak bladder. Or, you can find a bladder cheaper.

The vest I think you're thinking of, if Android linked it is sixty-two. Add thirty because it has no way of carrying water if you plan on buying the condor hydration bladder and pouch.

that's about $92, whereas the condor hydration vest is about ten bucks cheaper and you have a better chance of finding a higher quality water bladder.

It's a horrible idea to skimp on not having water on your gear. Ask those who've suffered from heat casualties due to dehydration.

[Farmer]

Heat casualties are no joke. Dehydration alone sucks, but heat exhaustion can rapidly turn into heat stroke which can be deadly. I tried to "tough" it out Saturday morning at Summer Slaughter last weekend. I though "oh its only 4 hours, I wont need water".........I was in big trouble till my wife showed up with a hydration carrier for me to guzzle from.

Water is super important and the rigs with carriers for water are just about the same price...

[Icepick]

Water is an important aspect of your gear.

To be honest, I've never needed water on my gear. I'm not trying to do the whole "cool guy" attitude but there has never been a time on the field where I have gotten so exhausted as to the point where I need to drink water. However, I do bring bottled water with me to the spawn area, so whenever I need a drink I am always able to have it there while I'm resting.

That could be a viable alternative Lion. Also, this new rig I bought has a pretty handy pouch that a bottle of water will fit into perfectly. This isn't the same pouch, but it's the same idea. (This makes dealing with water on your kit a whole lot easier. No messing with stringing the bladder through your shoulder straps, cleaning it, draining it, etc.)

http://www.ebairsoft.com/molle-water-bo ... -2893.html

[Hamster]

To be honest, I've never needed water on my gear.

I really, really hope that:

A) You spend a lot of time in your spawn with your water bottle.

B) Never move from a spot of shade. Ever. Not even move.

C) Never play on super hot days with the sun out.

D) All of the above.

Secret option E) Never actually play or exert yourself with any strenuous activity ever, and are a closet chairsofter.

It's not the point of "Being exhausted while playing", it's the point of staying hydrated so that it RARELY HAPPENS. The moment you begin to feel dizzy, tired, or you have difficulty remembering certain things like your own birthday or the date, that's bad. If your piss is a dark amber or golden, even that's not good.

This past weekend, for Wendyland, everybody was on each other about staying hydrated. We still had three guys on our side suffer from heat casualties. Hell, the medics had requirements to keep at least five quarts of water on their person at a time. I was a medic, and I did that. When a guy felt dizzy or showed signs of dehydration, we had him sit out.

tl;dr, Water is pretty important. It's a matter that's often overlooked, and is pretty dangerous.

/end of threadjack/rant.

[Icepick]

I'm not trying to detest what you said about water being important, instead I'm trying to show the OP a different opinion and outlook on things. In my opinion water is important to bring with you to the game, but it isn't a vital part of your kit unless you need it. Not to offend, but you make it seem as though by default everybody and their brother who goes on the field needs to have at least "X" amount of water with them at all times. For me that just isn't the case, I just take care of my body by drinking a good amount of water everyday (extra before a game) and bringing water with me to spawn. That way I still get hydrated, but don't have to deal with all of that bladder/canteen hooplah.

[MillerSA15]

I'm not trying to detest what you said about water being important, instead I'm trying to show the OP a different opinion and outlook on things. In my opinion water is important to bring with you to the game, but it isn't a vital part of your kit unless you need it. Not to offend, but you make it seem as though by default everybody and their brother who goes on the field needs to have at least "X" amount of water with them at all times. For me that just isn't the case, I just take care of my body by drinking a good amount of water everyday (extra before a game) and bringing water with me to spawn. That way I still get hydrated, but don't have to deal with all of that bladder/canteen hooplah.

Your opinion is a bad one, and could lead to other people getting hurt. Most people would call this "wrong".

It is stupid to say that hamster WASN'T saying you should have "X" amount of water with them at all times. "X" amount should be 1 liter. You could probably get by with .5 liters with plenty of water at spawn. At least 3 liters if you have no water at spawn and you plan to play a whole day with just that water, before heading back to your car, where you should have at least a gallon.

If you are drinking because you are thirsty, that means you are dehydrated. Therefore you should be drinking water constantly, and always have water on you.

As was mentioned, heat stroke can, and often is deadly. Heat stress and heat exhasting can creep up on you pretty quickly without water, and it takes a good bit to recover. The much smarter option is to carry water with you, and stay hydrated by drinking consistently throughout play.

Unless of course, as hamster said, you just sit around in/ very near spawn all day, in the shade, not exerting yourself, in which case you probably can get away with not having water.

[Orwell]

My knee-jerk reaction to this whole mess was to blame it on Icepick being 17 and invincible in his own head, but Hamster is a year his junior. *facepalm*


Tips for water are simple. It's a lot like Phoenix said: Keep at least a little with you. Sip on it. Refill it often at spawn, and drink more there. You'll be okay.

Away from the threadjacking, that looks like a nice vest. I hope you enjoy it, and look forward to seeing you in the field!

[ogrejager]

My knee-jerk reaction to this whole mess was to blame it on Icepick being 17 and invincible in his own head, but Hamster is a year his junior. *facepalm*

And you're so bleeding much older. Yeah, that 2 years gives you a sooooo much more experience.

Kids.

I originally carried water to airsoft games in a hydration pouch on my plate carrier. Then I started just bringing it to the spawn point. Then I ditched the heavy, hot plate carrier. Then I realized that most airsoft games were about 1/5 the amount of work of most hunts I go on. Now I try and remember to bring water.

Moral? When it's hot out, you need to drink water. Duh. But don't tell a guy how to carry it. If he wants to drink at spawn, you could easily do that. Most of us go back there every 10-30 minutes. Do, though, bring water.

[Orwell]

And you're so f***ing much older. Yeah, that 2 years gives you a sooooo much more experience.

Kids.

You misunderstand. I know you're used to being the angry guy who knows everything, but I have to clue you in to something: Not every kid thinks he's the exception. I can name innumerable instances in just the last year that I've done something stupid because I act like I'm invincible.

My principle point still stands.

[MillerSA15]

My knee-jerk reaction to this whole mess was to blame it on Icepick being 17 and invincible in his own head, but Hamster is a year his junior. *facepalm*

And you're so f***ing much older. Yeah, that 2 years gives you a sooooo much more experience.

Kids.

I originally carried water to airsoft games in a hydration pouch on my plate carrier. Then I started just bringing it to the spawn point. Then I ditched the heavy, hot plate carrier. Then I realized that most airsoft games were about 1/5 the amount of work of most hunts I go on. Now I try and remember to bring water.

Moral? When it's hot out, you need to drink water. Duh. But don't tell a guy how to carry it. If he wants to drink at spawn, you could easily do that. Most of us go back there every 10-30 minutes. Do, though, bring water.

I would still highly suggest everyone carry at least some water on them at all times, for those times you have miraculously not died, and are now really thirsty.

[Matt]

Really there's only 2 things you need to carry in a vest at a game : magazines and water. If you plan to attend any events where people are active for more than 10 minutes at a time without going back to the cars and jacking their jaws, you might want water on your person.

[Catch22]

Water is nasty, fish have sex in it. You're all young, just drink lots of energy drinks, and Mtn Dew. I'm sure you'll be fine.

edit: in case you can't tell... I'm joking. Always have water to drink at games.

[Icepick]

Unless of course, as hamster said, you just sit around in/ very near spawn all day, in the shade, not exerting yourself, in which case you probably can get away with not having water.

I know how I play, and I'm not one to laze around or go a short distance. I play hard and get a good workout every game, but I've always been able to manage without water on my kit.

Matt, you're also more than likely going to want a dump pouch on that vest. (Which I don't consider a part of "magazines" because somebody on a seriously tight budget could just put the empty mag back in his mag pouch.)

I'll admit that I might do things a bit different, but that doesn't mean I'm the only one. I'm willing to bet there are quite a few others that don't carry water with them and get along just fine. It's up to the OP if he wants to go with water or not, I think everybody here knows at this point that I'm just on the forums to play devil's advocate due to my oddball methods and rambled brain, and use the winky face emoticon.

And sometimes give useful advice and helpful information.

[LION1]

the water bottle pouch that is listed does anyone know if there is a version in black? because i would carry that on me.

[Jewish Ninja]

The small .5L water bottles fit great in a mag pouch. Stuff some in there and call it good.

This is in place of using a big hydro carrier. I'd still suggest bringing at least a gallon jug out to the field with you.