WE M4, SCAR, or G36 skirmishable with a few upgrades?

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WE M4, SCAR, or G36 skirmishable with a few upgrades?

Postby God » Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:48 pm

So, I want a GBBR.. Badly. But I also want to be able to be somewhat effective on the field... Are WE GBBRs(namely the above named) skirmish able with a RA-TECH NPAS nozzle and a few CO2 mags? Same question on a WE HK416...

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Postby Rainmaker » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:03 pm

here's the answer I provide to people who do not provide enough information: DEPENDS! how long do your games last? is it CQB? milsim? quick "speedball" games? how large is your field? Do you really want to shell out $500+ for a gun, NPAS kit, and about 7 mags?
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Postby God » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:16 pm

Games will last for the average AP game(3hrs it seems per round), mil-sim and casual, FIELD, never been to the AP fields. I'd be trading, but YES.
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Postby Switchback » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:22 pm

Yes. I used one with ONE MAGAZINE for a few skirms against people with high-caps and AEG's, and they are intimidating enough to the point where they turn heads and make a great point-man's weapon.
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Postby G36 FTW » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:32 pm

My WE Scar sucked a nut, although it was cool (but really, accuracy wasn't it's thing).

I can't speak for the WE M4s, but my WE G36 has held up very well, and is accurate enough to skirmish with- although some tweaking would be advantageous. Very usable rifle, but same hulking G36 magazines, so make sure to have the proper pouches.

And know that with any WE rifle, you need to watch the trigger pack. Pins and screws like to unscrew themselves and escape, never to be found.
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Postby Rainmaker » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:33 pm

I play mostly CQB and I've made a 20rd KSC G19 mag last me an entire 20mins in a king of the hill game in CQB against others with AEG's (which is like 3 hours outdoors :P ). The real soldiers who are deployed generally carry 6 mags and 1 in the gun. the problem is that in airsoft theres a little thing called RESPAWN! Don't be stuck with 2 mags and an AI GasCan!
So to answer your question, a GBBR would totally be skirmishable in a 3 hr game if you carried enough mags on you. Just the mags alone wil cost almost as much as the gun itself, but if you are really that willing to spend $500 for a gun and 7 mags, then go ahead.
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Postby Minerva » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:51 pm

MalikMazadu wrote:Games will last for the average AP game(3hrs it seems per round), mil-sim and casual, FIELD, never been to the AP fields. I'd be trading, but YES.


The G36c I think would be fine it's the gas at the temperatures in Oregon/Washington that you would have to worry about more ;)

There are a TON of upgrades you can do the those WE guns and like you said, add an NPAS and it would do just fine as long as you keep the mags from cooling up too fast

Think I remember a thread on ASM about how to make your pouches integrated with hand warmers too.. Can't remember how they did it though haha :?
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Postby Mr. Technicality » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:58 pm

I know it's not one of the ones you're looking at, but I have a WA-system King Arms M4. The minimum I'd recommend for it to be skirmishable would be an RA-Tech NPAS and aluminum loading nozzle and a metal hop unit (such as this one). With that hopup, you'll need a new bucking as the stock one won't fit. I'd recommend a Prommy soft bucking and an SCS nub. Eventually the aluminum bolt carrier would need to be replaced with a steel one, but I wouldn't worry about it right off the bat.

White lithium grease from your local hardware store is a must for any GBB. Perfect viscosity to lubricate all the moving parts. And, of course, silicon spray in your propane to keep your mags from leaking.
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Postby Jewish Ninja » Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:51 am

Besides losing the hammer bearing pin, I haven't had any problems with my WE G36c.
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Postby icebullet » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:34 pm

G36 FTW wrote:And know that with any WE rifle, you need to watch the trigger pack. Pins and screws like to unscrew themselves and escape, never to be found.


This.

I had a choice of getting a new pack for some outrageous amount of money, or just use semi auto. It gave me great trigger discipline though. ;)
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Postby CommieHunter » Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:41 pm

The short answer is No.
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Postby pulsipher » Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:57 pm

since your gunna spend the money anyway get a Polarstar PR15 from amped airsoft or evike. large iniatl setup low cost of ownership compared to GBBrs
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Postby Minerva » Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:47 pm

pulsipher wrote:since your gunna spend the money anyway get a Polarstar PR15 from amped airsoft or evike. large iniatl setup low cost of ownership compared to GBBrs


When are they going to start selling drop in kits? I kinda wan't to drop the V2 into something I already have..
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Postby Darius137 » Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:01 pm

pulsipher wrote:since your gunna spend the money anyway get a Polarstar PR15 from amped airsoft or evike. large iniatl setup low cost of ownership compared to GBBrs


Is that what you did to your M249?

Also, do those have recoil and use HPA gas?

I'm thinkin it's time I sell all my other airsoft guns and get one. B)
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Postby God » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:08 pm

So, for those saying I should BUY the PolarStar engine, I'm trading most likely... Plus, I want a GBBR for somewhat of a PTW that doesn't cost $1350... So I'd like to have to maintain it someone closely to how one would maintain a real rifle/carbine(no gearboxes)... But, here's the killer, I want to be able to be effective on the field too. Looking at the WE G36c due to its rumored little to no cool down on its mags...
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