Jindo Gear

[MJKramer]

I was told by some kids in my area to post here... its a self prescribed set of items (most of it) that I intend to bring to White Jindo 3. I am playing American. whats in the picture and what will actually be used in game are subject to change.

-Tan plate carrier (some weird future force model that I had to tie together in the back with 550 cord because china doesn't know what the hell their doing).
-On that plate carrier I have mag pouches capable of 8 total STANAG mags. I have 8 mids and one high cap that I can stuff into one of the EMT pouches on the side.
-Two EMT pouches for whatever I feel like putting in there the night before I depart. its mine and I'm the law in this sector of me.
-I am playing US Forces in a Korean War scenario. I have two sets of ACU and one set of Multicam. ACU duty uniform, Multicam duty uniform, ACU Combat shirt with duty pants.
-the black sweater is because I keep my heater off. I'm a cheap bastard who would rather buy guns than pay an extorted electric bill. so I keep my bill down the way that I know how.
-not pictured are my knee and elbow pads that are the same color as the vest.
-not visible, but is in the picture is my rubber knife.
-in my hand but not so obvious is my M4 with Eotech replica and MBUS set.
-below the camera angle, I am only wearing socks. when I actually go to the game I will be wearing cold weather tan service boots. I only feel like screwing up one pair of boots since I wear them both to work.

am I possibly not covering any grounds? and if you point out my glasses I will know how retarded you are because I'm in my own house with a disconnected battery and empty mags. I'm well aware of the eyepro thing.

[MJKramer]

THANK YOU! knew I was missing something. good thing I wasn't headed out the door. it would suck if I did that, just ran out the door of my house with an M4 and a strung together plate carrier. then spent about 2 hours there at the game and dried out. its summer time.

If I dont get a camelback that attaches to my vest with the webbing, I'll either make due with the backpack style one that I have or I'll shove waterbottles into my side pouches.
oh, and I was giving one of my own guys shit for not carrying it. willfully not carrying it. and at the time he was part of my command.
and I reffered to it as a "special forces" setup because thats my task. not my look. english be not strong my point kno?

best part about it is I was able to take this picture with a timer instead of taking a reflection picture in the bathroom. perhaps I'll do that next time since thats the cool thing to do.

[Limpy]

How in the name of shazaam do you "forget" to have some kind of hydration on you? Isn't that the equivalent of forgetting to take off your clothes when you take a shower?

good thing I wasn't headed out the door. it would suck if I did that, just ran out the door of my house with an M4 and a strung together plate carrier. then spent about 2 hours there at the game and dried out. its summer time.

Also, do you leave to games in full kit? Like, you're in your car driving around with your kit on? And how have you gone through airsoft for this long, since I know that you aren't new to it, without some sort of hydro carrier? But to get to the point:

Speacial Forces kits are just that, Special Forces kits. You can't say "Well, it's my task not my look." That's cheating. SF guys in the US look a certain way BECAUSE SF is their task, you idiot. However you want to word it, what you did was falsely advertise your kit as an SF impression, and, since it isn't, Stams was right to call you out on it. He was nice about it though, and when you go asking for advice, especially on this forum, and then just argue with those trying to assist you the whole thing becomes totally pointless and annoying. So here's the deal, either you stop saying your kit is a Special Forces kit, or we keep having this same argument. I've seen the posts on the 1st-Sword forums, and this is pretty much what happens every time you post something about gear. Now, why do you suppose that is? Is it because the entire world is out to get you and everyone hates your guts? Nope. It's cos' you're often wrong or don't know how to word things, or at least that's the message I'm getting from what I've seen. So, again, just to be clear; either you accept that this isn't an SF kit, nor an SF impression in any way, shape, or form, or you change it so that it is one.

I'm sorry for being in any way gruff about it, but it seems as though your skull is impervious to any real sense or logical statements, so I felt as though if I didn't type it in all caps, to simulate me shouting at you, I'd better write it shrewdly. <3

PS. Your carrier is a Chinese knockoff of a Crye Chassis and, I'm pretty damn sure, NO ONE used it in any parts of the Korean War. No one.

PSS. Unless Earth is a state in the US your location is all wrong. It should be "*insert state here*, United States." Or it could be "United States, North America," since the US is not a continent.

PSSS. Things your kit is lacking:

- Gloves are always nice, unless you hate them.
- Rigger's belt.
- You only need one pair of EMT shears, and they don't need a pouch.
- While you're at it, if you're going to have trauma shears you might as well have medical supplies, so an IFAK, on the back of your left side (don't you forget it), would do nicely.
- I'm not sure when the latest advancement in the Korean War was, but I'm not so sure that the US used EOtechs then. Correct me if I'm wrong.
- Don't need a rubber knife, I'm pretty sure most people won't like you knifing them.
- Hydro, as Nick said.
- Utility pouch, for extra batteries and tools if field stripping is needed, I've had that come in handy before.
- Hydro.
- Hydro.

PSSSS. Don't be a tool by saying-

and if you point out my glasses I will know how retarded you are because blah blah blah blah blah

-when you're asking for advice. Learn some forum, and social, etiquette.

PSSSSmotherfuckingS. This should go into the Tactical Equipment forum, not the Off Topic forum. Mods, please move?

[Juicemachine]

I'm pretty sure this isn't a Korean War loadout.


Just, like, pretty sure.

[Beran]

while most people think of the "korean war" ranging from 1950-1953, '53 only saw an armistice signed. that's an agreed cessation of hostilities not a formal end of war declaration. officially, the korean war has been ongoing from 1950 to the present day. we just arent currently actively engaged in combat.

so, technically his gear at least is correctly dated even though it is newer.

[Snowman]

lol

[MJKramer]

How in the name of f**k do you "forget" to have some kind of hydration on you?

I was putting it together to see if it fit. I had JUST fixed the flappy panel in the back.

Also, do you leave to games in full kit? Like, you're in your car driving around with your kit on? And how have you gone through airsoft for this long, since I know that you aren't new to it, without some sort of hydro carrier?

water bottles are great. I have a vest with a built in camelbak pouch, and I have a black backpack thiny that is pretty much a camelbak. but I cant use those two over this vest in the pic. I was worried at first about fixing that annoying panel.

I'm sorry for being in any way gruff about it, but it seems as though your skull is impervious to any real sense or logical statements, so I felt as though if I didn't type it in all caps, to simulate me shouting at you, I'd better write it shrewdly. <3

don't worry. my feelings aren't hurt. I grow better slowly with experience and interaction. if you have the background to support your knowledge, good. why do you think all this time i never got mad at Nasty for his replies to my stuff?

PSS. Unless Earth is a state in the US your location is all wrong. It should be "*insert state here*, United States." Or it could be "United States, North America," since the US is not a continent.

did that on purpose. I'm on planet earth, somewhere in the USA. thats accurate enough.

Things your kit is lacking:
- Gloves are always nice, unless you hate them.
- Rigger's belt.
- You only need one pair of EMT shears, and they don't need a pouch.
- While you're at it, if you're going to have trauma shears you might as well have medical supplies, so an IFAK, on the back of your left side (don't you forget it), would do nicely.
- I'm not sure when the latest advancement in the Korean War was, but I'm not so sure that the US used EOtechs then. Correct me if I'm wrong.
- Don't need a rubber knife, I'm pretty sure most people won't like you knifing them.
- Hydro, as Nick said.
- Utility pouch, for extra batteries and tools if field stripping is needed, I've had that come in handy before.

- Gloves I have several. but its hard to work the camera
- Rigger's belt, I have one right now its my service belt (for when the real army needs me to go do my one weekend goof around in the supply room because people are pissing me off again).
- I dont have any first aid supplies that go into the field with me. but eventually, money pending, I will.
- for this event, the command which I am under has ordered that our members specifically have a knife. I also have a real one on my body for when branches or thorn vines get violent with me. they have since I started airsoft.
- Hydro... sounds like a code word in rap I heard once. but WATER yes, I'll have in a few days when I actually head out. if I have to, I'll put that backpack on my stuff. I hate wearing backpacks over plate carriers but I'll make it work.
- Utility pouch, thats what those "EMT Styled" pouches on my side are.

Don't be a tool

sorry, certain hours have me in bad moods no matter what I'm doing.

while most people think of the "korean war" ranging from 1950-1953, '53 only saw an armistice signed. that's an agreed cessation of hostilities not a formal end of war declaration. officially, the korean war has been ongoing from 1950 to the present day. we just arent currently actively engaged in combat.

we're in combat now. at least for the sake of the game this weekend.
go read White Jindo 3, under Events.

most of the "descrepancies" that genuinely matter (battery, water, food, water, ammo in mags, pistol, water, co2 bottles, tools for CO2 mags, a better belt, more water), those will be adjusted that day. and I actually have four pairs of really nice gloves. I'm only lacking hard knuckle gloves that some people tell me not to get because "Kramer, you gotta quit having such a temper"

[Limpy]

You still haven't fixed your not-so-Special-Forces kit yet.

did that on purpose. I'm on planet earth, somewhere in the USA. thats accurate enough.

Wait. What? You purposefully put your location in the incorrect format as well as the incorrect location entirely?

So you are willfully incorrect?

[Beran]

who gives a shit? enhance your calm, limpy. hes not the only person on AP with a purposefully vague location.

[Juicemachine]

Well, herp. Juice is stupid.


Am I the only one having fun watching a person who can't legally join the military tell someone who actually does it in real life why he's stupid and his kit's wrong?

[Nimrod]

I think Limpy needs a hug

[Catch22]

Offer constructive advice and stay on topic.

[Haloeclipse]

Am I the only one having fun watching a person who can't legally join the military tell someone who actually does it in real life why he's stupid and his kit's wrong?

No you're not. Limpy needs to shut the funk up.

Seriously, going off about a rubber trainer knife? Dude's intentionally vague location? IFAK on back left? Get the sand out of your vag you prepubescent turd.

Faggots going crazy over any military impression make me giggle. You're still just a wannabe no matter how accurate it is, and in no way does it honor or dishonor the real operators by having accurate gear.

[MJKramer]

oh wow! this is making my day way too fun.

I put my location as "Earth, United States" like that on purpose. on every forum I have been on I put it like that.

btw, three pairs of the gloves I have are given to me by the army (that I would actually consider wearing). ok, there's 5 but one is not for fighitng. its for extreme cold weather in dry climates. washington doesnt have those.

this is one.


here's the other (these two are camp murray issued)


here's another (ft knox issued, at basic). this is old and traditional. they are also meant to be "I dont care if they get destroyed protecting my hands they're so ugly."

btw, coming from a supply guy in the real army; cutting the fingers off your gloves will get you the following actions
-dirty words and looks from a sergeant major/1st sergeant/commander/platoon sergeant/section sergeant
-statement of charges (when you pay for willfully destroyed items)
and even if it was your own gloves you bought yourself...
-ordered to toss the destroyed gloves and then ordered to put on non-destroyed gloves.

for airsoft, you can buy tipless gloves. no real rule against it. but since we're trying to be super dictatorly correct here, just thought I'd let you know. (it came up one time with a salesperson).

[S_01]

Then buy a second pair of gloves? It's not that hard. Lord knows how many people I know in the military who use personal kit because they:
1. Don't wanna use shitty issued gear
2. Don't want to loose shitty issued gear
3. Don't want to pay for shitty issued gear they loose