AP safety/weapon rules

[Chesty_01]

How many guys/girls out there have had a person running a bolt action call "Safety Kill" when there was no way they could have made the shot? Also how many folks out there would like to see squad auto's actually be support weapons?

This is a petition to make it so "snipers" cannot call safety kills and must carry a Sidearm at all times when running their bolt.

Also, to increase the fps limit to 450 for saw's. I would love to see this change in our community.....would you?

[Chesty_01]

Mods could I get a pole added to this? Couldn't figure out how. Ya know me, not all that savvy with English or computers..lol

[Nocte]

Mods could I get a pole added to this?

Here ya go.

[Sixxgun]

really think they should raise fps limits on all AEG's

[Chesty_01]

Mods could I get a pole added to this?

Here ya go.

Thank you!!!

[code789]

id say no the the 450 fps SAW operators are already carrying a hell load of bbs i do not want them to hit me harder

[mossy]

It would scare you at keep you down. After all that is the point of a SAW... I say yes.

[G36 FTW]

Im not exactly involved in the communinity games directy but I thought I could jump in anyway...

If you allowed SAWs to shoot 450fps, you may possibly want to limit the rof, otherwise people will undoubtedly come out of games with multiple rows of welts (they would anyway, but it wouldn't be as bad).

Anyway just an idea


PS: I thought snipers already had to carry a sidearm... Oh well.

[Falcon7]

Snipers should definitely use sidearms instead for safety and fairness. Higher FPS + Full auto + spraying = dangerous. As far as I know SAW don't have more range or power than a normal machine gun in real life...please correct me on that if I'm wrong.

[Patrick750]

I agree totally when it comes to bigger ops, but for free skirms every weekend i can care less.

[Pharaoh 6]

Snipers should definitely use sidearms instead for safety and fairness. Higher FPS + Full auto + spraying = dangerous. As far as I know SAW don't have more range or power than a normal machine gun in real life...please correct me on that if I'm wrong.

Here is your correction.
M4
Point Target: 500m
Area Target: 600m

M249
Point Target: 800m
Area Target: 1000m

The higher magazine capacity for SAWs arguement is crap if it's not match up with a slightly greater range.

I'm all for higher FPS for SAW, M240, RPKs. However, there should be some rules.....
1. Like the snipers all LMG operators should be required to carry a side arm for close engagements.
2. There should be a minimum distance rule.
3. To enforce and train this there should be a training course. Attendance and graduation would be neccessary to carry a card authorizing you to field one at an OP. Just like many communities do with the sniper rule.


Just my 2 cents.

P6

[Catch22]

I think all snipers and DM's should carry a sidearm, but should still have the option to call safety kills.

I don't think SAWs should have a higher FPS.

Safety and fun are more important than realism.

[Beran]

the sniper/sidearm part i an agree with. ive had kids try to safety kill me at over 75 feet. if you have to yell it, you aren't doing it right.

as for higher FPS on SAWs, i disagree. what it will do is make it so every new kid sees that they can shoot a little bit higher velocity if they buy a SAW, because in their head FPS is the be-all-end-all of airsofts. this will lead to nine thousand fifteen year olds with SAWs laying on the trigger without looking where their weapons are pointed, which we have enough of at 400fps already. i also dont like the idea of a certification to allow higher FPS weapons, be it SAW or sniper rifle. half the kids that get certified will ignore most of that immediately, because now they have more FPSes and can kill everyone just like in call of duty.

the only caveat to this is the larger medium machine guns, and vehicle mounted weapons. i think that if you have something like an M240 or an M60 and you are only allowed to fire it from the bipod or a vehicle, then i can agree with a higher velocity. i would even support it going a bit higher if you had to have an AG with you and carry fifty pounds of weight to simulate ammo.

also, your logic on the longer range is somewhat flawed. not only is the barrel on the M249 significantly longer than an M4's, but the ability to hit a point target to 800m is typically when supported and prone, and with a much larger volume of fire.

[Steve]

I definitely support the higher FPS for SAWs and other support weapons*. I also support a requirement that they use stock (non-tightbore) barrels, and a mix of at least two weights of pellets in the magazine.

And I recommend that they have some form of magnified optic. Thanks to a 4x magnifier, I've been able to avoid engaging guys that were already "dead" and heading back to the spawn point.

I do not support a training class for SAW gunners. The weight of most SAWs is enough to discourage the kiddies. The cost of the ammo also discourages the kiddies. And, at least in my experience, the more you tweak a SAW, the faster it breaks parts. At this point, I'm having to have a tech tear down and rebuild at least part of the mechbox every other game. The sheer cost of upkeep will discourage n00bs from running them. At least for very long, anyway.

*MG36's don't bleeding count. Nobody uses them. HK built a couple, and even the Bundeswehr wouldn't buy them, and that is an entire ARMY full of HK fanboys. Putting a box mag on a G-36 doesn't make it a support weapon. Anybody who shows up on the field with an "MG-36" should be clubbed like a baby harpseal for trying to be that much of a cheese-dick. You want to be a support gunner, buy a support weapon. Buying a boxmag for your shitty plastic G36 just doesn't fly. Man up and build out an MG-4 if you really truly want to be different. FPS limit on an MG-36? 72 FPS with a 0.12 pellet

[Ivan Daylovich™]

I think all snipers and DM's should carry a sidearm, but should still have the option to call safety kills.

I don't think SAWs should have a higher FPS.

Safety and fun are more important than realism.

My thoughts exactly.