Safety killing

[Catch22]

If you were blind firing... Yes, you were wrong as well.

[God]

Thought so, so how would one generally solve that? Who would/should be hit/out? Is it blind-firing even when you know exactly where the target is, but no, I couldn't see him.

[quigly]

Now adays, the ONLY time I call a safety kill on someone is if I am behind them, or to the complete side of them. And if I am going to safety kill them, I try to get as close as possible, so they can't argue I didn't have a shot. If their gun moves towards me at all, they get 2 rounds to chest(or other protected area). I have seen far to many people be 40 feet away and try to call saftey kill to a guy behind a tree. Remember people, you should only call a hit if you can guaranteed hit them, and they aren't able to hit you. You shouldn't call a safety kill to someone that is pointing at you less it is a major saftey violation, ie. bolt guns.

[Braddock]

One other key component of the safety kill that I haven't seen discussed here is that this should only be used if
you completely have the drop on the guy and he has no clue you are there.
You cannot saftey kill someone if you are engaged in a fire fight with them and get too close... Then you parlay.

Really, this should be a common sense and a judgement issue. If you cannot use common sense and judgement dont play airsoft.

[glockmeister]

I understand what you are saying about giving away your position saying safety kill. I had a time where I was hiding in a bush, there was about 10 other people within 50 yards, and 1 person who was about 4 feet from me. I whispered safety kill to him, he freaked out, turned around and shot me in the hand about 5 times, gave me some nice scars on my fingers and yelled "DAMN! You scared the shit out of me!." By then everyone knew where I was and I was showered by plastic. It probably would of turned out better if I had shot him then, but you can really get in trouble with the admins if you do that. You will also have a person who is pissed at you.

[Maginus]

I'm alittle confused, whywould a sniper stick his rifle through a hole of a building? Did he not have a side arm? Hell I played as a riflemen that day & still switched to my side arm to kill someone rather than shoot them with my rifle. I would like to think I would still have switched even if my intent was to get so close as to safety kill someone.

[God]

M14 was being used as an assault rifle, not a DMR or a sniper...

[Catch22]

I understand what you are saying about giving away your position saying safety kill. I had a time where I was hiding in a bush, there was about 10 other people within 50 yards, and 1 person who was about 4 feet from me. I whispered safety kill to him, he freaked out, turned around and shot me in the hand about 5 times, gave me some nice scars on my fingers and yelled "DAMN! You scared the shit out of me!." By then everyone knew where I was and I was showered by plastic. It probably would of turned out better if I had shot him then, but you can really get in trouble with the admins if you do that. You will also have a person who is pissed at you.

Safety kills have to be said in a loud voice.. The person being safety killed then says "Hit". Safety kills are not a silent kill. For a silent kill, refer to "Knife Kills"

RUBBER KNIFE KILLS
Players are allowed to "tap out" other players with rubber or plastic knives made for safe Airsoft use. Touch your opponent with your rubber knife and simply tell them that they're dead. Contact should be no more than a tap; there's absolutely no slashing, throwing, hitting or martial arts physical contact allowed. Contact must be made with a rubber or plastic replica of a knife, sticks and other objects do not work. DO NOT tap another player in the head, neck, face or groin. Players eliminated by this method should try and acknowledge their hit/death silently.

[dr.feelgood]

Aren't there like five similar threads that say the exact same thing?

[BoogeyMan]

Aren't there like five similar threads that say the exact same thing?

Absolutely - are you noticing an increase in these types of threads? I know I have - and I've also noticed an increase of pissed off players.

The point to take out of this thread folks - is there is an increasing problem with safety and sportsmanship in this hobby. Remember that a lot of us have jobs that we need to stay physically fit for and can't risk injury. Some of us don't have health insurance and can't afford to pay for any injuries. It's been said a shit ton - SAFETY FIRST - then FUN - then WIN.

Call your hits. Take the safety kills. Don't argue directly with a player, tell him to stay there while you get an admin. I think some changes need to be made in our community if we're going to continue to grow and progress. But that change needs to start within the players. No one else is going to come in and clean up our mess. We need to police up the assholes on the field and either get them to go along with our ways or get the f**k out. Veteran players should be expected to mentor the newer ones and lead by example with good sportsmanship and safety. New players - READ THE STICKIES. BE SAFE.


Without safety and sportsmanship - we're f**ked.

['Skyhawk']

Call your hits. Take the safety kills. Don't argue directly with a player, tell him to stay there while you get an admin.

Thank you! I was just about to say the same thing. Also It's in black and white in the AP rules. You must honor safety kills. There is no other option listed in the rules. Shut your mouth, call your hit, go to respawn, contact admin if needed. It's not like your out of the game. You can usually respawn fairly quickly. That's why I can't understand people not calling hits.

Everyone is right, it creates bad feelings, and ruins the game when hits are not called. And if you are a non-caller, do you really feel good about yourself or your tactics, at the end of the day?

[glockmeister]

RUBBER KNIFE KILLS
Players are allowed to "tap out" other players with rubber or plastic knives made for safe Airsoft use. Touch your opponent with your rubber knife and simply tell them that they're dead. Contact should be no more than a tap; there's absolutely no slashing, throwing, hitting or martial arts physical contact allowed. Contact must be made with a rubber or plastic replica of a knife, sticks and other objects do not work. DO NOT tap another player in the head, neck, face or groin. Players eliminated by this method should try and acknowledge their hit/death silently.

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I didn't have a toy knife on me nor do I own one. I wasn't aware of this rule. Why can't you whisper safety kill to a person if you don't want to be found...

[Patrick750]

I honor every safety kill. If there is confusion and no admin around just take it. It's better then being shot or not taking it and shooting them back. I was safety killed by a sniper not to long ago and he was far enough back to "legally" shoot me out. But i took the safety kill because I was alone and he had the drop on me.

[Catch22]

RUBBER KNIFE KILLS
Players are allowed to "tap out" other players with rubber or plastic knives made for safe Airsoft use. Touch your opponent with your rubber knife and simply tell them that they're dead. Contact should be no more than a tap; there's absolutely no slashing, throwing, hitting or martial arts physical contact allowed. Contact must be made with a rubber or plastic replica of a knife, sticks and other objects do not work. DO NOT tap another player in the head, neck, face or groin. Players eliminated by this method should try and acknowledge their hit/death silently.

I didn't have a toy knife on me nor do I own one. I wasn't aware of this rule. Why can't you whisper safety kill to a person if you don't want to be found...

You have to say it in a loud voice, so the other player can clealy hear you say it.

[glockmeister]

RUBBER KNIFE KILLS
Players are allowed to "tap out" other players with rubber or plastic knives made for safe Airsoft use. Touch your opponent with your rubber knife and simply tell them that they're dead. Contact should be no more than a tap; there's absolutely no slashing, throwing, hitting or martial arts physical contact allowed. Contact must be made with a rubber or plastic replica of a knife, sticks and other objects do not work. DO NOT tap another player in the head, neck, face or groin. Players eliminated by this method should try and acknowledge their hit/death silently.

I didn't have a toy knife on me nor do I own one. I wasn't aware of this rule. Why can't you whisper safety kill to a person if you don't want to be found...

You have to say it in a loud voice, so the other player can clealy hear you say it.

Are you allowed to say it to where they can hear you but not shout it out?