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Postby Pope_Alex_Kaeda_I » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:56 pm

Last week I had a meeting with the owners of a property that I was hoping to rent for an event. The meeting went pretty well, and I was pretty optimistic about things...

...at least until I received this email.

Hi Alex,

Thank you for your interest in renting our property. While your event sounds like an interesting and exciting prospect, we have to apologize that it cant be held on our property. After our meeting last week, I spent some time doing some research into the community you belong to, we've decided that we'd rather not be associated with your potential players.

I'm sorry this can not be resolved.

Sincerely

XXXXXX XXXXXX


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Postby Riddick » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:02 pm

could this be that we represent more of a real word aspect because of our guns and gear unlike traditional paintball?
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Postby Variable » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:09 pm

This is why we can't have nice things?
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Postby Pope_Alex_Kaeda_I » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:10 pm

Riddick wrote:could this be that we represent more of a real word aspect because of our guns and gear unlike traditional paintball?
I really don't think so. That was one of the things that we talked about, and they didn't seem concerned about guns and gear. I suppose the possibility exists, but from the vibes I got from them, I don't think its the guns and gear.
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Postby Variable » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:16 pm

So they basically don't like the fact that the vast majority of people on AP act like a bunch of sexually retarded monkeys.
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Postby Pope_Alex_Kaeda_I » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:24 pm

Variable wrote:So they basically don't like the fact that the vast majority of people on AP act like a bunch of sexually retarded monkeys.
Thats the way I read "I spent some time doing some research into the community you belong to, we've decided that we'd rather not be associated with your potential players."

And thats why I say its sad that I can understand their position - I don't want to be associated with the sexually retarded monkeys around here, so I can completely understand why they wouldn't want to be either. Lets be honest about things, there's a ton of retardedness around here. A certain level is to be expected, but when you get right down to it, a huge percentage of the potential event participants snack on paint chips regularly and it shows.
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Postby Merchant » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:46 pm

This is true, but it really can't be avoided. I have seen people complain that airsoft is an expensive sport, when in reality it is only as expensive as one makes it, which means we get a whole slice of the social spectrum that includes ex and current military, to the guy down the street who is kind of a creeper. There isn't much as a community that we can do about it either, unless we take it to an extreme and make airsoft an exlcusive club sort of deal. Which would put off alot off people.
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Postby Jester316 » Tue Sep 07, 2010 1:57 pm

Pope_Alex_Kaeda_I wrote:
Variable wrote:So they basically don't like the fact that the vast majority of people on AP act like a bunch of sexually retarded monkeys.
Thats the way I read "I spent some time doing some research into the community you belong to, we've decided that we'd rather not be associated with your potential players."

And thats why I say its sad that I can understand their position - I don't want to be associated with the sexually retarded monkeys around here, so I can completely understand why they wouldn't want to be either. Lets be honest about things, there's a ton of retardedness around here. A certain level is to be expected, but when you get right down to it, a huge percentage of the potential event participants snack on paint chips regularly and it shows.



Alex, I'd write them back and see if there is anything we can do that would allow us to use their property. Explain that the type of events you host generally don't attract the retarded players.

But in all honesty, I'm surprised this is the first time this has happened with the way this community acts. And it's the same reason why I'm hesitant to direct people to this website when introducing them to airsoft.

Thus is life though....
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Postby Haloeclipse » Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:08 pm

Im interested in specific examples that make them not want to be associated with this community.
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Postby Nocte » Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:12 pm

Pope_Alex_Kaeda_I wrote: I don't want to be associated with the sexually retarded monkeys around here, so I can completely understand why they wouldn't want to be either. Lets be honest about things, there's a ton of retardedness around here.


Let's be honest here, Alex. You can't really detach yourself from the kind of posting you're describing. For all we know, they looked at your own post history and made their decision based on that.

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Postby Juicemachine » Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:13 pm

Haloeclipse wrote:Im interested in specific examples that make them not want to be associated with this community.


As am I.

EDIT: I'm not saying I can blame them. We've all been guilty of various douchebaggery that could make any sane-minded people want to stay as far away as possible.
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Postby Pope_Alex_Kaeda_I » Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:14 pm

Jester316 wrote:
Pope_Alex_Kaeda_I wrote:
Variable wrote:So they basically don't like the fact that the vast majority of people on AP act like a bunch of sexually retarded monkeys.
Thats the way I read "I spent some time doing some research into the community you belong to, we've decided that we'd rather not be associated with your potential players."

And thats why I say its sad that I can understand their position - I don't want to be associated with the sexually retarded monkeys around here, so I can completely understand why they wouldn't want to be either. Lets be honest about things, there's a ton of retardedness around here. A certain level is to be expected, but when you get right down to it, a huge percentage of the potential event participants snack on paint chips regularly and it shows.



Alex, I'd write them back and see if there is anything we can do that would allow us to use their property. Explain that the type of events you host generally don't attract the retarded players.

But in all honesty, I'm surprised this is the first time this has happened with the way this community acts. And it's the same reason why I'm hesitant to direct people to this website when introducing them to airsoft.

Thus is life though....


With the "I'm sorry this can not be resolved. " line, I dont think there is something we can do. I wrote back and thanked them for their time and consideration.

Sadly this isnt the first time that this has happened. I'm always on the look out for potential locations for events, and some of my friends/friends parents/my parents have put me in contact with various land owners over the years. I'm used to being shot down for various reasons - perceived dangers, potential damage to property, etc. Liability concerns rate highly among property owners who often indicate that if they decide to go for it, an event would be limited to 18+ because of immaturity of younger players.

I know that the more aware/mature people around here don't need to be told this, and that the mouth-breathers who get in the way won't bother reading this (or will think that this doesn't apply to them), but we all need to keep in mind that quite often, we are our own worst enemy. Words have consequences. When we act like paint chip eating, 'mah speelling dont mater', social rejects, it interferes with potential good times (hell - I need to keep that in mind too).
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Postby Solid » Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:14 pm

Sad... I feel like an a$$ now =.=;;
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Postby john boy » Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:24 pm

Not surprised. Especially with one teams arm patch is a spread rectum. Another player who use to show his junk to people at games..
So, what are you asking Alex? To clean up our community?
Start booting the problem children?
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Postby Mattman154 » Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:26 pm

Pope_Alex_Kaeda_I wrote:and that the mouth-breathers who get in the way won't bother reading this (or will think that this doesn't apply to them)


Do you think it applies to you?
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