ok, soo.... I have a question

[Mini-Marine]

True, he was filming, but that doesn't preclude him from playing an administrative role as well. He clearly saw that the guy was hit.

He didn't have a dog in the fight so it didn't matter to him one way or the other, and sometimes it is just an honest mistake when someone doesn't notice they've been hit.

I've told a teammate before that they were hit when they failed to notice it, it isn't a big deal.

Bad form is when you try to call out someone on the opposing team as being hit. Even if you are 100% sure of it, it is seen as biased since you are involved in the game.

There is nothing wrong with an unbiased 3rd party observer calling someone hit, or calling out someone on your own team.

[Jester316]

True, he was filming, but that doesn't preclude him from playing an administrative role as well. He clearly saw that the guy was hit.

He didn't have a dog in the fight so it didn't matter to him one way or the other, and sometimes it is just an honest mistake when someone doesn't notice they've been hit.

I've told a teammate before that they were hit when they failed to notice it, it isn't a big deal.

Bad form is when you try to call out someone on the opposing team as being hit. Even if you are 100% sure of it, it is seen as biased since you are involved in the game.

There is nothing wrong with an unbiased 3rd party observer calling someone hit, or calling out someone on your own team.

I also agree it's bad for to call someone you shot if they didn't. Unless you're 40' away, watch the bb bounce of center mass, they look down at the spot they were just shot in, and then proceed to raise their gun back up. Then I get pissed and start yelling...

Just because someone is filming doesn't mean they can't tell someone they were hit.

[Darius137]

hmmm, 26 posts.... Troll?

Nah. He's played a few times.

I have 4,000+ posts and I'm definitely a troll.

[JustinK]

It's certainly helpful to have people on the field as 3rd parties. At one event I was at there was an incident when I drilled a guy from about 30' away and he still flipped our can/alarm to "on" saying our team was out. I'm not sure which admin it was but he just looked at the guy and told him he was hit before he got the objective. It helped in not causing an argument.

Nice work sir in stepping up the plate and calling that guy's BS. The honor code is the honor code and when someone breaks it he deserves to get called on it.

[Raging Hormann]

I got shot in the backpack once from the side. It was a terrible hit, and the guy informed me he had hit me a few times (I was behind a tree, that was the only part sticking out) so I took my out. I wasn't happy with it, but I took it.

I couldn't feel or hear it at all.

[JustinK]

I got shot in the backpack once from the side. It was a terrible hit, and the guy informed me he had hit me a few times (I was behind a tree, that was the only part sticking out) so I took my out. I wasn't happy with it, but I took it.

I couldn't feel or hear it at all.

Lame. Should that even count? I mean, if you're talking realism, having your pack shot in real combat wouldn't stop you. At least, I don't think it would.

[Mini-Marine]

In the real world you don't respawn either.

You have to balance realism with gameplay.

[JustinK]

In the real world you don't respawn either.

You have to balance realism with gameplay.

Haha! Well, yes, of course. However, I'm just wondering if it's really... what's the word... I hate to say fair... to call a kill when it's on your backpack.

I guess it's just better to be safe than sorry in this sport.

[Blizzard]

It's to keep things consistent. If you say "backpack hits don't count," then you might shoot someone straight in the back, but hit their backpack instead. A real round would go through and hit the person, but if you were playing "backpack rule" they would still be in play.

[Steve]

Good on you for calling him out. Bad on him for not handling it like a grown-up.

I wish you had it on tape, so we could put it on Youtube as a "What not to do".

I called a kid out on not calling his hits to a ref indoors once. The kid swore to the ref that he hadn't been hit. Then I played back the gun cam footage...

[Raging Hormann]

AsianMarksman, JustinK, back in the day, we used to play where you would die when a BB hit you in such a way that would actually injure you. Shots to the toes, usually did not count, as well as shots to the hand, providing they were traveling in a direction that if the BB were a real bullet it would not enter your body. All other hits, like calves and forearms counted.

Then again, this was back when the only things we had were springers, and we were 14, and there were at max 10 of us at a time. Those were the days!

[Sonic]

so, I totally missed out on the whole conversation.
ty all for siding with me, I didn't feel wrong telling him he got hit.
but, I told them I wasn't going to play there until something positive happens, since it was just a "backyard" skirm, there are no admin, just players, and the occasional camera guy.
the guys team is team dirty in bothell area, now all of the guys are good at calling their hits but this guy does it consistently.
I just decided to not go there anymore, and now I am going to a new practice field

P.S: I like coma's,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[RallySoob]

[Juicemachine]

It was good of you to call him out. As for the whole "backpack hit" argument, that can be taken to whole new levels of badness. If we don't doe from getting out backpacks shot, then we won't die from a center mass shot, if we're wearing a plate carrier. Rules like these are great in CQC competitions and in small, friendly, invite-only games with people you trust, but in big games, people cheat far too much. Sometimes, people aren't even cheating, but the yelling and screaming really isn't worth it for a little more realism. In my opinion, the rules for big games should be simple: any hit to any part of your body or gear means you're dead. You'll respawn in 5 minutes anyway; get over it.

And what's this about airsoft making me gay?

[Steve]

And what's this about airsoft making me gay?

The blame for that lies at the feet of nature, nurture, or population density. Loving the cock was a pre-existing condition...