KJW or KWA Sig P226

[CalvinB]

I just found $170 in cash and coin when I was cleaning out the closet in my old room at my parents house. I have been wanting to get a P226 for a while because I have a RS one and love it. I also have a spare set of hogue rubber grips I want to try to put in it.

I've heard from a few people that the KJW is better because of how it functions, I also like the price, I can get the gun and 2 mags for 160

I have a KWA PTP series and love it, however idc about the NS2 system that much, it's nice but I have lots of propane. The last time I felt both of them, the KWA felt a little tighter and more precise.

What do you guys think?

[CalvinB]

MODS, please delete one of these threads, my computer freaked out and posted it in 2 different windows

[LiquidSnak]

I love my KJW because it works like a regular one. The KWA hammer flops around and is annoying, and thus the hammer release lever feels weird too. Also, I drop my KJW mags during CQB all the time for 3 years now with no issues.

[The gingerbread man]

I have had my KJW since christmas now and i love it. It is very reliable and sturdy. There isnt any wobble on the pistol. And like liquidsnak said, I have dropped my mag a couple of times and it hasnt broken yet. Strongly recommend the KJW.

[Hitman07]

I just found $170 in cash and coin when I was cleaning out the closet in my old room at my parents house. I have been wanting to get a P226 for a while because I have a RS one and love it. I also have a spare set of hogue rubber grips I want to try to put in it.

I've heard from a few people that the KJW is better because of how it functions, I also like the price, I can get the gun and 2 mags for 160

I have a KWA PTP series and love it, however idc about the NS2 system that much, it's nice but I have lots of propane. The last time I felt both of them, the KWA felt a little tighter and more precise.

What do you guys think?

Nesta I have a KWA P226
I can attest that the hammer on the P226 does "flop" unlike the KWA M9 which seems "strong" however the gun is great. I love the feel of a P226 feels like it was made for a hand

check out my youtube danph77

[Jester316]

I have the KWA P226 and loved it. However, I've had some issues with it. First the blow back chamber fractured, then the take down lever broke, then the magazine lips exploded.

KWA P226 PTP Pros:
-good weight and balance
-high FPS (some like this)
-milled parts are incredibly solid (lower receiver and magazine)

KWA P226 PTP Cons:
-Hammer spring doesn't allow it to return fully down
-Slide is aluminum, and is very light
-Outer barrel is polymer with no metal aftermarket replacement
-Some of the parts appear to be made of inferior metals (take down lever, mag lips)

I love mine when it works, but for the price I paid for it, I'm a little disappointed. It's marketed as a "Professional Training Pistol" and as such, I feel it should be made out of better materials. The outer barrel being plastic is a let down, and is done because it helps maintain the high FPS of the gun. I don't care about a handgun that shoots 350fps. I'd like there to be more parts for it, and magazines that were $40 each.

[CommieHunter]

I like the KWA over the KJW. Here goes:

With KJW there is a much higher rate of SIG replicas that use way too much gas, or don't work properly, or don't seal gas in. Some work, some don't. Even when working right, the KJW replicas aren't as gas efficient as the KWA.

KWA has better parts support and has a better finish by far than the KJW. The gun is assembled better.

Both have a working decocker, and as to the hammer wobble: The real SIG does not let the hammer sit on the firing pin. When fired, it drops and resets backwards slightly. When decocked, it does not sit all the way down. The KWA replicates this, but due to the tension on the hammer of an airsoft gun (light) there is some perceived wobble. The KJW does not replicate this.

KWA P226 PTP Cons:
-Hammer spring doesn't allow it to return fully down
-Slide is aluminum, and is very light
-Outer barrel is polymer with no metal aftermarket replacement
-Some of the parts appear to be made of inferior metals (take down lever, mag lips)

I addressed the hammer spring. Up to you to like it or not, it is what it is.

The slide is aluminum, and thus the gun uses less gas during operation, and has a faster cycle rate, even if the felt recoil is lower.

The outer barrel is polymer because of the higher natural lubricity of polymer over metal. The barrel is slicker and moves easier during operation, meaning less gas used and less hang-ups overall.

Yes, some parts on KWA pistols break. However, parts will break on KJW pistols as well (valve knocker). The difference is, KWA usually fixes or reinforces or changes material when a common part breakage becomes known. Also, replacement parts are easily available. I'd be curious to see how the mag lips broke. Was it dropped? Bent and put back in place before?

KWA mags are expensive, but they tend to have a much much lower leak rate than other brand magazines, especially in the long term. If you want to pay less, buy KSC System 7 compatible mags, but combine them with an overseas order to save on shipping.


Really, I put all my experience behind KWA as the best gas pistol manufacturer with metal pistols (not arguing against TM right now, different target/class). I put them over WE and KJW and whoever else makes gas pistols in the market right now.

[CommieHunter]

Want topper absolute ultimate pistol? Tokyo Marui P226 with Shooters Design metal kit.

Yeah, it'll cost about $400+ in the end.

[Jester316]

Adam, here is the album of the pictures KWA wanted. I sent in the mag for "studying" and have yet to hear back from them. I loaded up the magazine, slid the follower up (didn't release it and let it fly up). When I took my thumb off the follower, the area right next to the rolled pin disintegrated and the lips flew up, spraying the 15 rounds I had loaded up into my face.

http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b79/c ... en%20M226/

[Hitman07]

Commiehunter

Excellent post dude. Also everyone note the new KWA M226 with trades has all of those issues fixed. Except it does have a break in period as sometimes the slide doesnt rack all the way forward or back.

[dr.feelgood]

I've got the KWA, and love it. I like my guns to have the feeling that I could beat someone to death with them, and the KWA has that.

[LiquidSnak]

The real SIG does not let the hammer sit on the firing pin. When fired, it drops and resets backwards slightly. When decocked, it does not sit all the way down. The KWA replicates this, but due to the tension on the hammer of an airsoft gun (light) there is some perceived wobble. The KJW does not replicate this.

It actually does . When I fire or de-cock my KJW the hammer sits right where it does on a real sig.

[GacktC]

The cheap old all plastic KSC version is very good!
A bit over 300fps, very accurate.