Thoughts on TM AEP?

[VogonFord]

They are fabulous for CQC, though. The MP7 is your friend. I also like the 7.2v batteries, they're almost as fast as a mag change to switch. All of the AEPs have quirks, but having used the Glock 18 and owning the MP7 I highly suggest them.

[LiquidSnak]

I have the CYMA G18C that I picked up on the cheap. If it says anything about the Marui one, its that they are good little guns, because I love the knockoff.

[Cap n pickles]

Pros:
Greater consistency shot to shot
Long range (for a pistol, at low FPS)

Cons:
Extra mags are a phony pony to carry since they aren't shaped like normal pistol mags.

a) Close range (i'd rather shoot you with a pistol than say "safety kill")

Not gonna lie, it's kind of a dickish thing to shoot someone you have the drop on. If you do safety kill them, and they don't honor it, then go ahead and shoot them. But at least give them the opportunity to surrender.

b) If i drive two hours to a game and my sole AEG takes a dump on me i wouldn't have to immediately head home with my tail between my legs.

If this is your fear, I'd suggest looking into the UTG/TSD line of spring shotguns. An AEP still has a bunch of things that can go wrong, however a spring shotgun has many less parts. I loved mine. They shoot 3 bb's at once, and are generally not very powerful (read: at/under 300fps). If you can get kills with a pistol, then you'll definitely get kills with the shotgun. Just another option.

NO safety kills seem to work at End of lies just fine, esp if your using a saide arm, or even one of these low powered AEPs.

But that is just my opnion on this, as i try to strive to more milsim stye games.

Ive also taken intrest in AEPS due too how quiet they are.

[~Thunder~]

Pros:
Greater consistency shot to shot
Long range (for a pistol, at low FPS)

Cons:
Extra mags are a phony pony to carry since they aren't shaped like normal pistol mags.

a) Close range (i'd rather shoot you with a pistol than say "safety kill")

Not gonna lie, it's kind of a dickish thing to shoot someone you have the drop on. If you do safety kill them, and they don't honor it, then go ahead and shoot them. But at least give them the opportunity to surrender.

b) If i drive two hours to a game and my sole AEG takes a dump on me i wouldn't have to immediately head home with my tail between my legs.

If this is your fear, I'd suggest looking into the UTG/TSD line of spring shotguns. An AEP still has a bunch of things that can go wrong, however a spring shotgun has many less parts. I loved mine. They shoot 3 bb's at once, and are generally not very powerful (read: at/under 300fps). If you can get kills with a pistol, then you'll definitely get kills with the shotgun. Just another option.

Sorry you thought i meant shorter range AEP kills as dickish, but i think you misunderstood my point...
As an example, at one distance a sniper shouldn't take a shot, but could with an AEG. Then at some point an AEG shouldn't take a shot, but could with a GBB/AEP. Am i wrong following this line of thought? i mean, there's 100fps (or more) difference between each of these weapons.
Feel free to correct this noob though. WTF do i know?

They are fabulous for CQC, though.

That's another great point.
If i ever try CQC it would be nice to have something on hand to play with.

Ive also taken intrest in AEPS due too how quiet they are.

Ditto that appeal...same reason i find soft piston heads interesting. i'm guessing the more quiet you can take a shot, the more difficult being spotted would be.

Thanks for all the feedback people.

[Nec]

If you have the chance to get a Tokyo Marui AEP if any sort, take it! they are rare and very nice.

Sure the battery doesn't last nearly as long as AEG, buts thats to be expected with such a small battery and on top of that whos going to use it as a primary anyways?

[Jester316]

Pros:
Greater consistency shot to shot
Long range (for a pistol, at low FPS)

Cons:
Extra mags are a phony pony to carry since they aren't shaped like normal pistol mags.

a) Close range (i'd rather shoot you with a pistol than say "safety kill")

Not gonna lie, it's kind of a dickish thing to shoot someone you have the drop on. If you do safety kill them, and they don't honor it, then go ahead and shoot them. But at least give them the opportunity to surrender.

b) If i drive two hours to a game and my sole AEG takes a dump on me i wouldn't have to immediately head home with my tail between my legs.

If this is your fear, I'd suggest looking into the UTG/TSD line of spring shotguns. An AEP still has a bunch of things that can go wrong, however a spring shotgun has many less parts. I loved mine. They shoot 3 bb's at once, and are generally not very powerful (read: at/under 300fps). If you can get kills with a pistol, then you'll definitely get kills with the shotgun. Just another option.

Sorry you thought i meant shorter range AEP kills as dickish, but i think you misunderstood my point...
As an example, at one distance a sniper shouldn't take a shot, but could with an AEG. Then at some point an AEG shouldn't take a shot, but could with a GBB/AEP. Am i wrong following this line of thought? i mean, there's 100fps (or more) difference between each of these weapons.
Feel free to correct this noob though. WTF do i know?

Yea, I misunderstood that. I do the same thing. I won't shoot someone from very close range with my primary if I can avoid it. But, I'll also offer a surrender option if I have the drop on someone.

[John_234]

The only decent performing AEPs I've seen are the Skorpion (even it's clones hit at around 260, stock) and the Mac 10. They, along with the MP7 are also the only models to utilize full size magazines. The Skorpion is a very nice sidearm, but the Mac 10 is large to the point where pistol is a bit of an understatement.

The MP7 has some potential for upgrade, but they generally involve using a battery bag or a fixed stock. Not a big fan of ATAS, especially the latter, which seems to contradict the actual advantages of the MP7. The pistols, however, are really doomed to mediocre performance and PITA magazines.

The main difference you'll note when using an AEP is that you have to "float" the BBs onto target at range because of the much slower velocities.

Out of the actual AEPs, I think a Well Skorpion with a brace of mid caps would work pretty well. To be honest, if you wanted a CQB primary rather than an electric sidearm, you might as well go for the compact AEGs. Galaxy MP5K/PDW's shoot at 320 out of the box and cost a little less than the larger AEPs, about $80. You'll also have one of the more common designs to work with in terms of mags and parts.

[Haloeclipse]

I love the cyma glock 18. The only con i have is that the magazines like to fall out, easy fix though,. Everything else is great, nice long flat trajectory, easy to adjust hopup.

[Fluffy]

My friend has the TM VZ61. I've fielded it more then he has which is the only reason I'd bring it up. It is a really cool replica, and fun to shoot. But the FPS is so low that some people won't feel it. More so as the ranges get longer. Or as the gear gets thicker on who you're shooting. I'd go with what Jester said on getting a TSD spring shotgun (the tri barrel kind) if you want an AEP because you are afraid of an AEG dieing on you on the field. If you want a cool sidearm that can reliably and cheaply shoot full auto, then AEP is the way to go. My humble opinion on the matter.

[John_234]

Did you get a chance to chrono? I recall the Well w/ .20 hit around 260.