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Postby Fluffy » Thu May 14, 2009 3:43 am

Darius137 wrote:Also the paint rounds are only used on vehicles. So the damage isn't going towards you unless you have a small chance of being hit if you're in the driver's seat.
With the exception of my mortar idea you're right. No tank crew would waste a tank shell on people. No RPG guy should waste a round on people. Though I agree the M203 would be nice used against people, it would be more towards vehicles.

If you could get a Nerf rocket to show a hit well on a vehicle, it would work just fine as far as I see it. less mess. it just doesn't have a nice of a spread. But that's not a huge deal.
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Postby Solid » Thu May 14, 2009 9:39 am

Steve wrote:I wonder if you could modify a nerf rocket to carry baby powder somehow. Like, cut a bunch of small holes in the foam, fill the center of the rocket with powder and stuff some crepe paper or something in the base of the rocket to hold the powder in. Basically set it up so that when it hits, the squoosh (technical term, right?) of the rocket / football would poof powder out to a few feet to show where the vehicle got hit.


Yeah thats exactly what I was thinking, that would be fairly easy to do, I might just try it
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Postby Mini-Marine » Thu May 14, 2009 11:06 am

Only problem is you would need a really solid impact to get that effect. A glancing blow or a long range shot just won't create the compression thats needed to accomplish anything.
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Postby Solid » Thu May 14, 2009 12:35 pm

Mini-Marine wrote:Only problem is you would need a really solid impact to get that effect. A glancing blow or a long range shot just won't create the compression thats needed to accomplish anything.


I think an admin would be around to witness that event 90% of the time, I think it would work out fairly well, you can get one of those nerf balls really moving with the right level of compressed air.
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Postby Mini-Marine » Thu May 14, 2009 1:12 pm

The question is how much of the marking substance are you gonna lose because of the compression caused by the launch, and how much is gonna pop out upon impact.

If you are using a nerf RPG or whatever as an anti-vehicle weapon hit/miss is simple enough without anything leaves a mark to denote impact, but if you are trying to simulate vehicle mounted heavy anti-infantry weapons then you need something that is soft enough that a direct hit on a person won't cause harm, yet creates some sort of "blast" to mark hits within its casualty radius.
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Postby Steve » Thu May 14, 2009 1:30 pm

Yep. I have been trying to get my head around that for a wnile now, and just can't come up with anything that will throw pellets or flour in a 5-meter circle safely. The hard part is 'safely'.
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Postby Mini-Marine » Thu May 14, 2009 9:03 pm

You don't even need 5 meters, though it would be nice, even having a 1 or 2 meter blast radius would make it a dangerous enough weapon to make taking it out or capturing it a very high priority.

however even that small a blast radius is a tough item when it comes to safety.
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Postby Fluffy » Thu May 14, 2009 11:56 pm

Mini-Marine wrote:You don't even need 5 meters, though it would be nice, even having a 1 or 2 meter blast radius would make it a dangerous enough weapon to make taking it out or capturing it a very high priority.

however even that small a blast radius is a tough item when it comes to safety.
Agreed. I'm looking for a small blast radius. I should say only the kill radius on the weapon platform. Since injuries are too hard to track in airsoft.

Okay an idea. Could you compact baby powder (or some other powder) so that once it hit the ground it burst apart in a cloud and spread out in a radius large enough? it's something I'm not too sure about, but it's worth looking into as much as the spread of a paint (that comes off very easy with baby wipes etc) based round.
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Postby LiquidSnak » Fri May 15, 2009 7:48 am

just figure out how to launch one of those snicker grenades or something
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Postby slipstream » Fri May 15, 2009 9:30 am

you could cut a small piece of material from a roller paintbrush and attch it to the nose of the RPG and put some easy off paint on it or other marker liqid that would leave a visible mark. Wont leave a huge mark but its there, and it is safe and simple.
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Postby hellfire0990 » Fri May 15, 2009 10:15 pm

For the Nerf football idea, just cut the holes so they're all facing forward, or at least more forward than back. That way when you fire, all that the force of firing is doing is keeping the powder in the Nerf ball even better, and when it hits it's target, whether or not the Nerf ball squishes up from impact, the powder will still shoot out the front and hit it's target. (Just from the force of the ball stopping, just make sure it's a very light power, so it comes out easily). Not a very big damage radius, but that's not a huge deal. However, the question I have about my own method, is would a Nerf ball in flight stay pointed the same direction the whole time as it was when fired? I assume it would, but this wouldn't work if it didn't.
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Postby Grease » Sun May 17, 2009 9:38 pm

Depends on what shape it was I guess... A Nerf football would probably stay strait, but if it was cut too much and rounded it would probably spin all over.
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Postby Matt. » Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:31 pm

*cough* Water Balloons *cough*

Much more simple and effective. Whatever is wet, is dead.
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Postby Steve » Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:47 pm

Matt. wrote:*cough* Water Balloons *cough*

Much more simple and effective. Whatever is wet, is dead.


Yeah. Um, no.

Read the rest of the topic. The discussion that you necroposted in was about the use of airsoft crew-served weapons. The dicussion devolved into the design of and uses for anti-vehicle munitions. You know, things like RPGs and anti-tank rockets.

Projectiles that can be launched an acceptable distance, look like the devices that they are modeled after, and can be used safely.

I'm not sure where exactly yor happy a** pulled f***ing water balloons out of, but I'm pretty sure your head is still in that container or orifice. Water balloons will blow up under the launch pressure needed to get fired out of, essentially, low-pressure potato gun. If they have enough rigidity to keep from bursting, they won't break when they hit something. Oh, and they are going to wobble like crazy as they fly, which is going to turn aiming into a game even retards won't bet on.

Next time you go to post something, try adding something useful to the thread. And maybe stick to ones that have activity in the last two f***ing weeks?

Seriously? F***ing water balloons? Where do these geniuses come from?
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Postby Variable » Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:49 pm

Seattle apparently.
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