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Is my local airsoft shop liable for shoddy repairs?

Postby Alien_Hunter » Thu May 16, 2013 5:16 pm

I recently took the motor out of my WE m4. I couldn't get it back in the cage and one of the clip on the wire (not the motor) broke. So I take it to the local shop and tell them to put it back together. They call me, it's done. So I pick it up and all they've done is put a bead of solder between the wire and motor. I should;ve said something there, but I left with the assurance that 'it's all good'. So as soon as I put the motor in the cage the soldering came undone. I call them "hey the solder broke and I told you'z guys to put the whole back together" (I paid $15 for that 'repair'.) They say oh sure bring it back and we'll do it right this time. I got it back today. They acutally broke the housing on my motor and put "an ICS turbo" in it. (i haven't checked. my gun was shooting like 15-20 rps before. ppl wanted to know if it was li-po'd.) I haven't even gotten to test it.

Here's where I get pissed. My gun has an interchangeable tamiya clip built in. I OK'd it for them cut one and replace the motor (WTF?). I get to the shop and it's just sitting on the counter missing a bleeding clip and I ask "WTF am I supposed to?"
He says "IDK man you cleared it." So I get home and solder the tamiya clips to the gun. Nada. Gun is not shooting. I'm fvcking mad right now. I live some 5-10 miles away I've made too many trips to deal with this BS. I have to work on finals h.w. otherwise I'd have my friend's mom breathing fire at them over the phone.

IT WAS AN ALMOST BRAND NEW GUN. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

And I bought tickets to their F****ing zombie OP thinking my gun would be working!
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Re: Is my local airsoft shop liable for shoddy repairs?

Postby Payback » Thu May 16, 2013 10:16 pm

When you talk about the "cage" are you meaning the grip? Because the WE m4 AEG is a ver2 box, at least the ones i can find. Or do you have a ver3 with the metal carriage that attaches to the gearbox?

And the clips i assume are the motor connections?

And with the "interchangeable tamiya clip" is that just the battery connection?



First, make sure you have a connection from the motor to the battery ends, test it with a voltage meter if you can. Make sure that you have the wires in the proper holes of the tamiya plug, If they are backwards, then no go.

I can't for the life of me think of why a simple motor wire fix would cause so may headaches. It's about the easiest thing to do. And why they would need to cut the tamiya plug is beyond me.

What is the exact gun you have? Link? And what store did you take it to?
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Re: Is my local airsoft shop liable for shoddy repairs?

Postby Alien_Hunter » Thu May 16, 2013 11:34 pm

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the ends of the wire install into the motor and a little tamiya adapter that comes with the gun. I broke the female-clip on the motor wire. They cut the female end off the tamiya to put it on the motor. Which they upsidedown up. Then they fuxed up the original motor. I don't know how they set up motor, it's not running. It's a regular motor housing. I soldered the cut tamiya to the male ends in the hand guard, correctly I may add. Now I won't even be able to take the upper reciever off because of the big solder lump on the battery wire!!

Your thoughts? I'm calling tomorrow and telling them how not cool this is. By charging me $15, they said "Yes we have repaired it" when they've made the EASIEST repair possible a headache! He could've said "Well gee I'm really in over my head here repairing a wire, take your gun to ASGI." And if this motor is junk IDK wtf to do next.
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Re: Is my local airsoft shop liable for shoddy repairs?

Postby Alien_Hunter » Thu May 16, 2013 11:40 pm

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Re: Is my local airsoft shop liable for shoddy repairs?

Postby Payback » Fri May 17, 2013 12:20 am

could be that you have too much solder on the motor and it's contacting more than it should be. There shouldn't at all be a big ball of solder on it. The black plastic parts in the picture are the tamiya connectors. The little ones are just male and female disconnects.

You can always test your motor by connecting a battery directly to it while it's out of the gun to see if it works. Use a vise if possible, or hold on tight and make sure your fingers are out of the way.

I would just take it to another store if you don't feel comfortable doing it. Also, do you happen to have a fuse in it? is it good?
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Re: Is my local airsoft shop liable for shoddy repairs?

Postby Matt » Fri May 17, 2013 8:16 am

Sounds like you got your money's worth. $15 is a damn cheap repair. You get what you pay for. I thought most legitimate shops wouldn't even touch a gun for less than $25/hour at hour minimum. Some even charge in excess of $50 minimum. It may seem like it's expensive, but when you have a shop employee who's working for peanuts, they don't care if they've done a good job repairing your AEG.
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Re: Is my local airsoft shop liable for shoddy repairs?

Postby Alien_Hunter » Fri May 17, 2013 10:43 am

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This is what they cut connectors from, to put onto the motor. Which they bungled. The solder is on the battery disconnects. I don't know many of the terms but good god. And no, they are not a 'poor struggling airsoft shop, give them a break" They sell no-name bb's for $20 a bag and just opened their own indoor field. The employees have new cars as well.
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Re: Is my local airsoft shop liable for shoddy repairs?

Postby Payback » Fri May 17, 2013 10:50 am

Alien_Hunter wrote:Image

This is what they cut connectors from, to put onto the motor. Which they bungled. The solder is on the battery disconnects. I don't know many of the terms but good god. And no, they are not a 'poor struggling airsoft shop, give them a break" They sell no-name bb's for $20 a bag and just opened their own indoor field. The employees have new cars as well.


That is the fuse housing. Open it and see if the fuse is good or not.
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Re: Is my local airsoft shop liable for shoddy repairs?

Postby Mindspeed » Fri May 17, 2013 11:07 am

Payback wrote:
Alien_Hunter wrote:Image

This is what they cut connectors from, to put onto the motor. Which they bungled. The solder is on the battery disconnects. I don't know many of the terms but good god. And no, they are not a 'poor struggling airsoft shop, give them a break" They sell no-name bb's for $20 a bag and just opened their own indoor field. The employees have new cars as well.


That is the fuse housing. Open it and see if the fuse is good or not.



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Bet it is the fuse.
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Re: Is my local airsoft shop liable for shoddy repairs?

Postby Alien_Hunter » Fri May 17, 2013 12:00 pm

OK!! so it is the fuse AND one of the quick disconnects came off. As long as don't have to the insides of my gun it still feels new.
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Re: Is my local airsoft shop liable for shoddy repairs?

Postby ogrejager » Fri May 17, 2013 1:35 pm

Alien_Hunter wrote:As long as don't have to the insides of my gun it still feels new.


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Re: Is my local airsoft shop liable for shoddy repairs?

Postby Alien_Hunter » Fri May 17, 2013 1:36 pm

Full auto becomes very sluggish after 20ish FA shots. Ideas?
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Re: Is my local airsoft shop liable for shoddy repairs?

Postby Mindspeed » Fri May 17, 2013 2:25 pm

Like the battery is running low?
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Re: Is my local airsoft shop liable for shoddy repairs?

Postby laggard » Fri May 17, 2013 3:24 pm

Alien_Hunter wrote: As long as don't have to the insides of my gun it still feels new.


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Re: Is my local airsoft shop liable for shoddy repairs?

Postby Alien_Hunter » Fri May 17, 2013 5:45 pm

^^ sorry I've had a busy week. As long as I don't think about the scarred, f***ked looking wires I'll be fine. I think the gun is overheating? I don't even know. :| There's $180 down the pisser plus the $15 I spent to have it royally screwed.
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