Why are people hatin' on hicaps?

[Nomad]

Maybe I'm the exception of the rule, but ITS POSSIBLE to use High Caps and not act like a saw gunner.

I agree 100%, i played in most of FW games and the most i used throughout any of those games was 3 hi-caps. I actually find myself spray and praying when using the couple mid-caps i have becasue i don't have to wind after 12-15 rounds, instead i can just hold the trigger for 130 rounds of rapid spray goodness. Whats the difference between someone having 6-8 midcaps and blowing through three of them then conserving the last few, and someone who is conservative with three high caps? I get that it is more mil-sim and i do plan on acquiring a box of midcaps as soon as i get the money. I just don't see why so many people assume that everyone with high caps is just going to spray and pray through all 400 rounds. I do hate the rattle of a half full high cap though.

[Cap n pickles]

I solved my problems long before i even started airsofting, i used 20 and 30 round hoppers paint balling. Single shot, no Full auto or burst.

Now i use 30 round mags for airsoft, i love it.

[Captain G.H.O.S.T]

I love midcaps. Realistic and no jams like hicaps nor winding needed.
Later.

[Solid]

I'm a midcap kinda guy, I dont airsoft for it to be 95% realistic milsim.

[Catch22]

I was just about to lock this for excessive quotes, but zeta broke the chain.

I'm glad It's not getting locked (yet) I've been on AP for a little over a year and this High cap topic keeping popping up and it gets locked a few pages in. Would like to see this topic play out for a bit longer. Unless it turns ugly...

That's why it always gets locked because it always comes up. It's mostly just opinion and personal preference.

If you didn't have rules people would complain about that. Too many rules, people complain about that. If the game was exactly what they wanted to do. They'd probably complain about it being on a Saturday instead of a Sunday.

[Mini-Marine]

Why is there activity in this thread late at night instead of during normal business hours?

This is unacceptable!

[GacktC]

Hicap rattles, and kind of like shooting stuff out from the trash can.
Just my opinion

[Steve]

Are we counting C-Mags and drum mags on say a MG36 or equivalent platform as "high caps?"

Yes, but only on the MG36. Especially if it isn't actually converted to an MG36. Run a real CSW if you want box mags.

Hicap STANAG mags have their place. They are great for using in a SAW.

I think a lot of the community movement to reduce high capacity magazines is in response to kids using MP-5s, M-4s, and short AKs as support weapons rather than using them as rifles. It has been my experience that a good number of folks hunker down at th extreme edge of their range and lob pellets at each other in a strea. By limiting ammunition between reloads, it (theoretically, anyway) encourages people to move rather than sitting back and hunkering down with their hicaps.

[Mike a.k.a. Pocahontas]

Could it be a semblance of realism?

It's still not realistic to shoot a normal size mag with 130 rounds in it

[Matt]

It's easier to just restrict the magazines allowed than it is to try to make a judgment call for each player to decide if they are not going to spray and pray with hi-caps. How would you enforce a "use hi-caps, but don't spray," rule? It's so much easier to just notice somebody winding a mag - obviously they are breaking the rules. You have to account for the lowest common denominator and the biggest dickhead when you make rules - unfortunately that makes it sucky for some honest folks.

For every one person who is responsible and just owns 1 hi-cap or 2, there are 5 people who would have an entire loadout of 10 hi-caps or more carrying 3,000 or more rounds. Some folks may remember a certain group up in Washington, years ago, with players who had all hi-cap loadouts of 12-14 mags. Every battle engagement for them was to hold down the trigger for 30 seconds and scream their head off.

I'd prefer everyone use real capacity, to be honest. A mid-cap enforcement is a compromise. You are still going to run out quicker, you'll still need to change mags, and SAWs are still more effective in that environment. Then again, you can't load 3,000 rounds in a real SAW box mag, so allowing mid-caps at 130 or what not levels that comparison a bit.

[MetraDirty]

Compare that a BB doesn't quite have the velocity and trajectory of a bullet.
That is why many use Standards and Midcaps. Closer to real capacity than a hi-cap, but some extra bb's to make up for the inaccuracy.

[book42]

I know that it is a rush to play airsoft and when your pinned down and you run out off ammo, adding the concept of reloading in the middle of a fire fight really get's the blood pumping.

Pap K and Matt have it right. Mid Caps are the realistic compromise to the Hi Cap issue. I've run with them since I started playing, and cannot recommend them enough. 'Sides... nothin' more fun or satisfying than successfully completing a smooth, rapid reload in the middle of a firefight. Hell! It's one of the reasons I got into airsoft.

Regards,

Kevin: a.k.a.- Book

[CommieHunter]

I have an opinion. My opinion differs slightly from some of the stated opinions, but I very much agree with one person, whom I will quote here.

My opinion is my opinion and it's more righter for me than yourer opinion is! I'm so right

Also, I wholly disagree with all of what some of you said, and some of what most of you said, so I'll quote someone here:

I wish it were all like I want it

This is so wrong. It can't be like this because what I think is always right in all situations.

I hope I've made myself clear.

[Coot_Prichards]

I'm thinking of going back to Hicaps. I have Midcaps for all my loadouts, but lately every op i've played lets kids use Hicaps. What's the use then, when you have 50 new kids running around, no tac gear, spraying full auto at every opportunity? I'm starting to think that looks more fun that humping my chest carrier around.

New loadout: Aeg w/ highcap. Tshirt and jeans, kneepads, and jam an extra hicap in my back pocket. DONE!

Hoping people start doing more Midcap only games like THUNDERSTRIKE out here on the East Coast.

[TheGunTrucker]

Me and you both. For now all I have is hi caps but they suck no fun just to stand there and wind mags all day!