Senate bill passed to make airsoft gun look more like toys

[lilwil]

Not true chef. In order for someone to "know" that killing people is wrong, they have to be taught it. It is purely environmental.

[Chefzilla]

Not true chef. In order for someone to "know" that killing people is wrong, they have to be taught it. It is purely environmental.

That would be moral, not environmental and it's wrong to take a life. No matter how you justify it. Even if you have to take a life, it's still wrong to do so and if you think that it's okay to take a life, you should really take a long, hard look at why.

[Russkie]

"It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have." - Clint Eastwood (The Unforgiven)

That quote right there shows why taking someone's life, for good or for bad / for right or for wrong, has such an impact. When you start to think about that sort of thing, it does mess with your head and can cause issues. Of course to what extent it does varies from individual.


As for the CA bill, I'm not surprised. I have a very "George Carlin" point of view on laws and regulations that if I expressed would probably start a flame war, so I won't go into that.

[lilwil]

Because its animal instinct. And morality is taught through environment. There is no absolute when it comes to killing someone. Saying it is wrong to take a life does not make it so. That is your belief, and your welcome to it. But to say everyone else is wrong because they do not have your beliefs is just ignorance. When it comes to whether or not an action is wrong or right the only person who can truelly answer that is the person who performed the action. Right or wrong is a concept that changes from person to person and environment to environment. There was a time that religions actively sacrificed people... now they say its not okay to harm. It really is a matter of environment... both time and surroundings.

Maybe its you who should take a long hard look at why you think that its not okay to take a life no matter what. My money is your religious.

[Juicemachine]

Lilwil, how many people have you killed? What facts/studies/intelligent people can you quote to back up your statements. Seems to me that you're just talking out of your a$$.

[KA-BAR]

i wont ever loose sleep for putting a scumbag down, i dont give a shit what he or others value his life at...the moment he threatens me and mine, he is upsidedown. teh criminal has dehumanized HIMSELF and i no longer view him as such....he is seen as a predator or a varmit and easily put down WITHOUT HESITATION.

now on the other hand causeing unintentional harm to a inoccent because of neglect or poor judgement is something i could not live with.

[God]

Question, who here would fire on a human threat and NOT feel disturbed about it? Then or not much after.

[KA-BAR]

there is a difference between human threat and human being....once you are a threat, you cease being human to me and become a target.


ill pull the trigger.

ill sleep better knowing you wont be comming back for more.

[Maginus]

If you do not wear a seatbelt, your taking your chances with death. There does not need to be a law wasting tax dollars enforcing it.

You know I agree with this one....but only to a point and that point is without a seat belt you have a decent chance of becoming a missile that can kill other people when you fly through the wind shield and smack dab into someone else killing them.

You know my philosphy is as long as your not messing with other peoples lives do whatever you want. But the moment you mess with others lives (either directly or indirectly) it's a whole new ball game.

[lilwil]

If you do not wear a seatbelt, your taking your chances with death. There does not need to be a law wasting tax dollars enforcing it.

You know I agree with this one....but only to a point and that point is without a seat belt you have a decent chance of becoming a missile that can kill other people when you fly through the wind shield and smack dab into someone else killing them.

By that logic i could sneeze, causing a chain reaction, and cause tsunamis in japan. So therefore, sneezing should be illegal.

Whom or how many I have killed is between me and them. I am here today because I never hesitated. That is all I need to know. Although I have to agree with morgan, killing a non-combatant would screw me up. Thats a heavy load, and just downright depressing.

[Maginus]

By that logic i could sneeze, causing a chain reaction, and cause tsunamis in japan. So therefore, sneezing should be illegal.

Well thats just seriously stupid. First try proving that your sneeze caused that....cause I can prove a person can turn into a missile and kill innocent people. Second try keeping your arguements some where near the realm of reality. A sneeze caused a tsunamis lmfao...all rsunamis are directly traced back to the tectonic plates of the earth shifted in or near the ocean, at least all the ones I've ever read about.

[lilwil]

A human slingshotting through a window and impaling someone else does not cross you as seriously stupid?

[KA-BAR]

A human slingshotting through a window and impaling someone else does not cross you as seriously stupid?

bruce lee did it all the time.

[lilwil]

Bruce lee was a god, made of licorice. There are non of those left.

[Mini-Marine]

Not true chef. In order for someone to "know" that killing people is wrong, they have to be taught it. It is purely environmental.

That's not true, many social animals (and we humans are animals) avoid harming one another, and will either kill or drive off any of their own species that harm their own.

"Killing is bad" is not purely a human social custom. It is something we have evolved over hundreds of thousands of years.

Anybody who has no qualms about taking another human life has some serious issues.

While I wouldn't hesitate to take down someone who I perceived to be a threat, I sure as hell wouldn't go on with my day as if nothing had happened afterwards.

Would I lose sleep over it? Maybe, maybe not, but it sure as hell would have an impact on me.