Safety Kills

[Cyph34r]

I only call a safety kill if it would ACTUALLY BE UNSAFE to pull the trigger... if they then attempt to shoot me, shazaam them I'll open fire.

[jdogbigmoney]

I have only used a Safty Kill 5-6 times and they were all from a few feet-few inches away, only ONE time did they call it and all the other times (including the few inches away one) the lit me up on full auto.

[Raging Hormann]

I was once caught in a Safety Kill situation.

It was late at night and my friend and I were doing one on one in their yard.
I turned aroud from cover, saw him and pulled the trigger while he said safety kill. I didn't actually hear him say it but we had a good laugh about it later.

Moral of the story:

Say it loud, say it proud. You caught someone unaware and you are decent enough to try and avoid their bodily harm. They don't honor it ASAP, you get ready to shoot because you never know what kind of a mood someone else is in when you sneak up on them and show them up. Some peeps is cool, they know when they're beat (even if it is only until they respawn) and some peeps are not so cool.

[Steve]

My $0.02:

It really irritates me to hear "safety kill" called from behind a chunk of cover. It's one thing (and generally appreciated) if you are staring down your optics at my 6 o'clock and all set to rail me from three feet away. That is unnecessary, but really neighborly. It's a whole 'nother animal if you try to call it when your weapon is 30 degrees off to the left of me, you're in the process of orienting toward me, and I break around cover with my muzzle pointed about 6" below your face. I already know you're there. I'm coming all angry-like to shoot you. If you aren't even oriented at me? Sucks to be you. If your muzzle isn't pointed at me, you can't call a safety kill.

My big pet peeve with safety kills? They aren't "area effect". It's a single-target courtesy, not some LARPsoft tennis ball with "fireball" scrawled on the side in Sharpie. If you run up on a group and cut the pie on their 6 o'clock, you should be covering individual targets with the muzzle, saying clearly and distinctly "safety kill", orienting the weapon to engage the next threat and repeating "safety kill" for each target or until one of your targets repays the favor by getting the drop on you.

And another thing: When someone is hiding inside a doorway, or is tucked into a piece of cover with no escape, and I'm pouring pellets right past them, chances are that I know they are there. It's why I'm shooting. Calling a safety kill while remaining entirely behind cover is pretty stupid. I'm probably in the process of cutting the pie. If they want to call themselves out before the stream intersects their fleshy bits, I'm totally cool with that. Or, they can try for a double elimination. But if they are pinned and can't expose enough of themselves from behind cover to get a legitimate non-blindfire shot at me, there's no way that should be a safety kill. I understand the desire to not get lit up in the bit that is exposed behind the rifle by poking their head out, and am totally okay with someone self-eliminating to avoid it. But, again, if you can't take a legit shot, you can't call a safety kill.

I'd actually rather see safety kills eliminated altogether. After a few experiences of getting pinned and eliminated behind deceptive cover, I reckon folks would be a lot less likely to trap themselves in bad spots. I'd like to think that it would encourage people to move more. It would probably just keep people from moving into buildings and such. Either way, the folks that knew how to move in and through close quarters would keep right on doing it. The people who didn't know would either pick it up fast, or avoid it altogether. I know for me, anyway, getting popped at close range is a pretty good lesson in not doing whatever stupid thing I had just done, and it tends to stick a lot better than a safety kill would.

[Ivan Daylovich™]

You guys are aware that you don't have to honor bullshit safety kills, right? Just like you don't have to call hit if someone misses you with a BB. You do have to honor legit safety kills though. Next time someone tries to safety kill you behind cover, from too far away, or for whatever other reason say "Nope!" "That's not a proper safety kill!" "shoot me, douche bag!" anything so they get the point. That's what I do, and I've never had them just take a shot and hit me, and it's never caused any problems either.

[ogrejager]

I just shoot anyone close to me in the center of mass. Generally, there's enough "armor" there and it avoids all this BS. That's my "safety kill."

[$tealth]

I occasionally have to call a safety kill, and people have tried to call one on me with their hands, then I proceed to shoot them. Not that it hurts that much, only 230 FPS(If that)... If it's not legit, I proceed to shoot them. Usually I just proceed to shoot them due to the slow nature of my spring pistol. Sometimes I give em a little tap on the back and call a melee kill... That's always fun.

[Nocte]

I just shoot anyone close to me in the center of mass. Generally, there's enough "armor" there and it avoids all this BS. That's my "safety kill."

This.

[G36 FTW]

If I can't tap you with my (rubber) knife, I won't be calling a safety kill.

[Darius137]

So we're agreed, I can ignore safety kills?

I'll say I didn't hear it. Heh.

[Russkie]

I have yet to be safety killed in a legit way. I ignore them all together unless the person can touch me with their rifle within one step, in which case I was probably already shot by then.

If you can't take a couple of welts, airsoft isn't your gig. Go back to playing with Barbie.

Also this was a the last PF OP. A good example of a bullshit safety kill. Skip to 2:30. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRy_1uR_HXc

[CommieHunter]

I believe everyone posting on here is using the rule correctly, and what everyone believes is in line with how the rule is written. The issue is the newer or younger players who hear about the rule at the field briefing. They think safety kill is something it's not.

Last game I was at I was clearing the village at Sniperz Den. I came around a corner with my M4 and tagged a guy in the vest from 10-11 feet. My M4 is a CQB rifle shooting 300 FPS. I didn't hurt him, but he thought I should have safety killed him inside of 20 feet. Since we were facing each other and it was a snap shot around a corner, it was not a safety kill situation, but it illustrates the comprehension issue we have.

Usually if it's really an issue, I'll call an admin over and have them explain to the offending player how they're incorrectly using it.

[Jester316]

I have yet to be safety killed in a legit way. I ignore them all together unless the person can touch me with their rifle within one step, in which case I was probably already shot by then.

If you can't take a couple of welts, airsoft isn't your gig. Go back to playing with Barbie.

Also this was a the last PF OP. A good example of a bullshit safety kill. Skip to 2:30. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRy_1uR_HXc

How was that bullshit? The guy had the drop on him, had him dead to rights, and choose to save a bb. That is the perfect example of a safety kill.

[chapped]

Shoot center mass!

[pappyjump]

I dont safety kill. A bb to the plate carrier does the trick. There is no arguing with getting shot.