Sniperzden FIELD AMMO ONLY

[Riddick]

Here is the formal notice that from this point on - SNIPERZDEN IS FIELD AMMO ONLY with a few exceptions.

I serve as only the messenger not the author of said policy. Since the introduction of airsoft at the field it has always been known that sniperzden is a bio ammo only field.

Every event listing that has been posted on AP has echoed that statement, however people still continue to bring non-bio onto the field such as last weekend when a player found a full bag of non-bio ammo left behind. This is not the first time this has happened.

Since this property is a farm that generates income for their household, Greg and his parents have a great concern about non-bio components entering their field and staying there. They feel the only way to ensure that EVERYONE is using BIO Ammo is to enforce that all event hosts provide/sell BIO AMMO and enforce that everyone has to use theirs aka FIELD AMMO ONLY.

They are not interested in being the provider/seller of ammo for airsoft games just like they don’t for the paintball games. They put that responsibility on the event hosts. So it will be up to that particular host to configure their pricing/structure for the ammo they want to sell.
Paintball at their field has the very strict policy of Field Paint Only to ensure that only good quality BIO Properties is entering their field. It has worked with great success.

How many unexploded paintballs do you find? Usually very little to none and that’s due to the quality and biodegradability of the rounds they sell. They want to continue that trend with Airsoft though we realistically know that they don’t biodegrade that fast.

We have to remind ourselves that this property also serves as a farm and need to maintain the best interest of their property. If airsoft/paintball were to provide a negative impact on their property we would be gone in an instant and the field shut down.

I sponsor the change with reservation to how I am going to be able to effectively keep everyone happy playing there at my events with the new rule. I know this maybe an unpopular change but I think we will first act negatively towards it since we are FORCED into it; if we want to play there but I think as time goes on people will realize it isn’t such a bad thing. Paintball has been doing it for 10+ years.

I hope all of you will continue to support the field because there are a lot of new changes coming this year with several new bunkers /buildings, field improvements and Warpaint is bringing Somalia Village to the field plus that big freaking castle.

Please remember that it’s up to the event hosts on how they want to handle the ammo for which they provide. I have my own ideas that I think will make it as painless as possible.

***Please note that nobody will be exempt from this rule. This means you BOLT ACTION RIFLE***

If anyone is caught using NON-BIO Ammo you will be ejected from the event without refund and could be subject to being banned as well.

[Matt]

It's unfortunate that a few people who can't follow the rules ruin it for the rest of us, but that's life. The only way to accurately enforce the use of bio ammo is to require the use of your own ammo. Even still, people will try to sneak in their own ammo. I would suggest banning people from Sniperzden who are found to be using their own outside ammo. It doesn't bother me much because I would have had to buy BBs anyway, now you'll just be paying for your event and buying your BBs at the same time.

What about varying weights? Are there bio BBs available at heavier weights?

Plan for longer wait times for games to start too, I usually load my magazines at home. With a field ammo rule, everyone has to load at the field. So those bastards who are always late but have their mags loaded, will now be late and STILL have to load their mags.

[Riddick]

There is a .32g bio round and .36g bio round.

[dos_Santos]

I am curious to the brand they will be using? I am not really concerned about this rule because in the end, you need to buy BB's. But it will still be hard to tell the bio bb's apart from other brands of bio bb's. How will that be enforced? I would have like to see a mag check or something similar to make sure people are using bio's. I was in St. Louis, MO for 6 weeks and a field close by just did a mag check as they entered the field.

However, this new rule won't stop people from lying and cheating. They will still take their own bb's in their backpack's. It may stymie the problem but won't stop it; which is sad.

And ditto Matt: pre-loading the night before with the field ammo is what I would do. But will that even be possible? Will I have to show their ammo in their bag? Can it be left over from a previous event there?

[Riddick]

it's up to the event host for which brand they want to sell.

I will be selling madbull and G&G. the top 2 bb manufacturers out there IMO

[Evil Zergling137]

Can you create a process by which bio ammo that we've purchased previously becomes 'field ammo'? I purchased a bunch of ammo at that field several months ago. is it 'field ammo'? Does 'field ammo' stay 'field ammo' between games?

[Sho Nuff]

I will gladly follow the new rules and will arrive earlier to accommodate the changes. Thanks for the heads up and I think it is a wise decision.

[dos_Santos]

If they buy from you, which I assume they are doing, and you sell Madbull, but I bought the same package at airsoftshoponline.com, can I use it?

EDIT: Another thought; maybe they can keep our ammo with our names on it in storage. Now they will realize that it's not as easy as paintball to implement field only ammo.

[Matt]

I'm wondering the same thing about re-using previously bought ammo. If they take a page from Paintball's book, you gotta buy ammo EVERY TIME you play. Doesn't matter if you already have some.

[Riddick]

If they buy from you, which I assume they are doing, and you sell Madbull, but I bought the same package at airsoftshoponline.com, can I use it?

I will ask

[Jason Bourne]

I am good with it, but like others... I don't think it will fix the problem that much. There are plenty of ways to sneak ammo in.

I only buy bio...because of the fields I play at.

[MitchD]

Paintball has always done field paint only for the main part, because that is where the money is in the business. Paintballs have always been Bio-degradable. There are some that are filled with real paint for marking in industrial uses, the original use of paintballs. In Airsoft it is not the cash cow as it is in paintball as we are all well aware.

That does not take away from the fact that people are not following the rules and make this necessary. But I do not see how this is really going to stop them from continuing to do so unless Ammo is checked during events. Even the threat of being banned from events is useless if no one is checking unfortunately. I like most people buy my ammo from you at the field anyways, so not a big impact for most of us. I would like to be able to use left over ammo at the next event though. I have about 6 bags of ammo in my gear bag atm. lol

[Riddick]

update:

So I just got off the phone with greg. He says it is fine if we bring bio ammo we purchased from somewhere else as long as it's STILL factory sealed (unopened) and must have a label affixed to it by us saying we saw it (aka CAMP R&R)

ALL AMMO WILL HAVE TO HAVE A INSPECTION LABEL AFFIXED TO IT. Which means that you will have to have an event host inspect it.

So things don't get all crazy with this only certain brands of ammo will be honored based on their tear sealed bags.

Madbull, G&G, Javelin, Bioval are the only bio ammo that will be accepted from offsite vendors. Private brands will not be accepted unless they use tear seal bags (not sure if thats the correct term)

here is example of bag

[Payback]

What about the bulk ammo we buy from you in plain ziplock bags?

[Jason Bourne]

What about goldenball or king arms?