What type of plate carrier is the most effective for CQC?

[shakespeare]

So, judging by the awesomeness that is the CQC areas at the field where Rogue Invasion is being held, I have been inspired to purchase a plate carrier sometime in the near future, for the purpose of looking more the part of somebody who would be fighting close quarters. The thing is, I've been presented with several options, all of which make sense in their own way. I basically divide them into 3 categories - RRV-type, MBSS-Type, and CIRAS-type.
By RRV type I mean a plate carrier that only covers the front. My thought on this is : My front should be the only part facing the enemy, right? And I don't need thaaaat much gear.
By MBSS type I mean a plate carrier that covers the front and back. My thought? My front should be facing them, but since threats come from all directions having a back might be nice. Also, hydro might be good to carry.
By CIRAS-type I mean a plate carrier that covers all the way around the torso. My thought is that I can carry a lot of gear, plus have lots of protection.

Granted, airsoft bb's dont hurt that bad, so protection really isn't an important factor.

My question is : what style of vest do you guys prefer for CQC?

[Bigfoot]

Since this is MILSIM and we are pretending to protect ourselves from real bullets I want a vest that could potentially do that. Use that logic when selecting a vest. Also comfort and fit are really important.

[Ivan Daylovich™]

Armor, like guns, are for cowards.
All I need is a slingshot and a jar of angry wasps.

[G36 FTW]

I use a CIRAS for everything (field, cqb and everything in-between)...

It’s nice because I can stuff all the mag/grenade pouches I want on and still have molle retail space to spare. As for offering more protection, it is a nice bonus- but not really needed if you dont want to wear a full size plate carrier (it does restrict mobility somewhat...).

[shakespeare]

Well I think in the vein of milsim, most "doorkickers" would be wearing full wrap around plate carriers, would they not?

What type of CIRAS/other full plate carrier would you find the best?

[Hallowground]

if you run an M4 and already have a dump pouch, you could get a MTS metal gear ciras off of evike.

[Toonvater]

for cqc i usually run my oe tech mps plate carrier.
its the best for cqc. has built in mag pouches and just throw on a dump pouch and your ready.
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.p ... ts_id=4635

[Variable]

Well I think in the vein of milsim, most "doorkickers" would be wearing full wrap around plate carriers, would they not?

What type of CIRAS/other full plate carrier would you find the best?

Are you looking to do a general impression or an impression of a specific branch/unit?

[Jester316]

I wear a large, wrap around plate carrier, that is a tank and a phony pony. But I love the way that it covers my whole torso for CQC, so I feel more protected. I wore it the whole time at CQC7, and am very glad I did.

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[DJ]

Depends on what you are trying to mimic. I cannot speak to the military, but LEA units tend to favor level 3 type full coverage vest covered by some type of load bearing vest. As to the "door kicker" , they do not usually enter first. they breach the door usually by means of a ram or halligan type tool, or breaching charge. They allow the entry element to go in and then provide back cover. The door breacher is usually the most heavily loaded individual because of the tools he caries. This varies depending on the agency SOP, but a general observation on my part.

[Hallowground]

i think the idea of doorkicker as whole stems from a non-specialist-assigned fireteam entering a house, and none of them have breaching equipment, so one of those bad-ass-mother-f**ker types gives the door a size 14-wide breaching ram.it's probably happened before, but might never happen in our prime airsofting days. unless some people actually want to set up break-away doors in CQC environments

[shakespeare]

I'm not really looking to do any impression in particular, as my team wears tiger stripes, which are not used by any LE or military units. So definitely more of a generalized loadout. I like the gear that Force Recon wears, but I'd probably be getting an OD plate carrier, so maybe more of an OD version of that?

Also, I would like to add that by "doorkicker" I was not referring to the actual guy doing the breaching, but more to the sort of units who would do that sort of thing.

[DJ]

i think the idea of doorkicker as whole stems from a non-specialist-assigned fireteam entering a house, and none of them have breaching equipment, so one of those bad-ass-mother-f**ker types gives the door a size 14-wide breaching ram.it's probably happened before, but might never happen in our prime airsofting days. unless some people actually want to set up break-away doors in CQC environments

When you apply a size 14 to a door as shown in the popular media, the result generally is broken toes. I speak from personal experience (size 12). when you must kick a door it is far better to place your butt against the door and perform a "mule kick" just below the door knob, you then either step aside and allow the team to enter or pivot / button hook into the structure. If properly done on an unreinforced door, the whole frame, door& hardware gos in. fun to do & watch.

If someone in the future has an event and wants to set up a practice "door kick" Its possible and fun using plywood, hinges and a few nails. Works pretty good.

[Hallowground]

LEARNING NEW THINGS!

[Jewish Ninja]

I'd suggest something like this
http://www.skdtac.com/Eagle_LE_Plate_Ca ... ag.591.htm

I've run an EPC w/ cummerbund at CQC. It was nice, but I didn't feel like I needed that much coverage.

When I start building my new CQC kit, I'm planning on getting the PC linked above. Still gives me great coverage and enough room to mount what I need, but light enough to not hinder my movement.