RRV+cummerbund+belt+G36 weapon catch.

[carbonfibreguy]

Yea, that was a really long title. I will never do that again, but it tells you what's going to be discussed here I guess, so here we go...

I want a RRV, because it looks cool and is lighter than a CIRAS, which is great considering that I live in the hot desert. However, I want to attach a cummerbund to it and also a rear plate so I can attach a MAP replica on the back side of it. However, I also want to be able to sling my G36 when it's not in use. I was thinking of using a weapon catch and a really short sling, but will it work right? I don't want it to have it hanging low either.

Also, I want to know your opinion on a belt setup, so I can have some extra pouches on it, and to attach a MP7 dropleg onto it.

In short, will a cummerbund work with a RRV, a G36 sling onto a weapon catch on my back, and if a belt would have any extra advantage.

Thanks for reading.

-CFG

[Darius137]

So you're worried about an RRV versus a CIRAS due to being slightly lighter, but you want to add a belt and a drop leg with an SMG?

Your sling and dropleg are going to need pictures before anyone can tell you if it will work right. Make it, and try it out, if it works for you, then it should work... for you.

I have a friend who makes custom uzi-pistol slings for using as a backup for indoors, which he's used in real life. If I had anything slung in real life I'd want an M320 or something that's useful in real life in a non-urban environment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M320_grenade_launcher), since they issue them to US troops, and they are ridiculously heavy and awkward on an M4. Also they come with a removable butt stock.

I know troops that use an RRV and then use canteens or a side-ways camelbak to leave room for a rucksack up top. The belt or molle belt usually has a first aid kit or special tools, or 40mm grenades for their M203/320.

A lot of people dislike droplegs, due to their wobble and impeding movement. The more weight you have on a leg, the worse off you are. For indoor, you aren't necessarily walking around as much, but I'd suggest some sort of chest holster for your MP7. Even tucking it in behind the bib on your RRV could work with some modification and sewn on straps.

[carbonfibreguy]

Thanks for the help so far. I forgot to mention that'll I'll probably be using Madbull grenades, not M203s. I don't like M203s very much, and I don't have a AG36 on my rifle.

As for the dropleg setup, I don't play CQC, and I play most always filed. I was also considering a pouch large enough to hold a MP7, but it might be worse than getting a dropleg. I'll find out next month or so.

The RRV; I was thinking of using the universal cummerbund by Pantac to put on. I'll also see what I can do about that.

Now, for the G36, I was thinking about a retention lanyard, this one: http://www.botachtactical.com/trpidewerela.html
What do you guys think?

[Jewish Ninja]

Another vote for avoiding the MP7 on the drop leg. I had one of those MP7 triple mount holsters, and while it was cool, it wouldn't stay in place and I never used my MP7 enough to warrant carrying the damned thing.

RRVs almost wrap all the way around my torso (and probably everyone elses, unless they're fat) so I don't really see the need for a cummerbund. But if you do want the extra real estate, there is nothing wrong with the pantac EPC that nasty linked.

How many mags are you planning on carrying? Do you need to carry comms? What about nommers? Personally, I like keeping what's on my belt to a minimum (the one I use with my EPC just has pistol mag pouches, my nommer pouch, dump pouch and my SERPA mounted to it.)

As for the weapon catch, I had a shotgun mounted to my back using an Eagle weapon catch and Eagle MBITR. If you don't plan on using the velcro closure on the catch, you should be fine, though trying to cram a G36 into it might be a pain. That was the main issue I had with mine was getting it so it was held closed with enough velcro as to not fall off, but loose enough to where I could open it myself.


Also, are you planning on using the MP7 as your secondary, or along with a pistol?

[carbonfibreguy]

Personally though, I think RRVs with cummerbunds look pretty badass.

You, sir, speak my language.

Right now I have a KWA G36C that came with G&P goodies, and I'll just be using the the K hand guard and barrel.

I am planning to use a MP7 as a secondary, yea, overkill, but I found one that was cheap and has some mags thrown in, so I'll end up not using the holster then. But, it just looks so awesome! I'll hold off on it though.

I plan to carry about 5 to 6 mags, all low cap 30 rounders. Yea, I know, I need more, but I hardly consume ammo, and I rarely use full auto when engaging less than 5 guys, if any. I'll be using Pantac universal mag pouches, hopefully they'll do the job. MP7 pouches though, I'll be using 9mm ones.

[Jewish Ninja]

If your running with so few mags, I'd suggest cramming what you can on the RRV and ditch the belt. Sometimes its better to have less gear (can't believe I said that).

You might try taking a look a Tactical Tailors stuff. They make a G36 specific pouch http://www.tacticaltailor.com/g36doublemagpouch.aspx

As for carrying MP7 mags, I've had nothing but success with their MP5 pouches http://www.tacticaltailor.com/mp5doublemagpouch.aspx (assuming your running the longer mags)

[carbonfibreguy]

I like the look of the RRV far better than that of the CIRAS, will order the RRV soon. Thanks for the help guys.

EDIT: I was looking at the TT double pouch, but I think it's a wee to bit expensive. I also don't run long mags for the MP7, short mags FTW.

[carbonfibreguy]

Plus, when kids start bragging about their Condor gear, you can smack them in the face with your American-made Tactical Tailor equipment.

That, if I do buy the pouch (more than likely later on), I will do so.

EDIT: Supposedly, Condor has been making some stuff in the U.S. now, more thn likely a lie don't you think?

[Solid]

I've tried using my dropleg to hold my MAC 11 and it bugs the hell out of me, chest rigs are the way to go with SMG's.

[carbonfibreguy]

I've tried using my dropleg to hold my MAC 11 and it bugs the hell out of me, chest rigs are the way to go with SMG's.

I didn't think they'd get in the way, lol. Now, when I do get a TM USP AEP, I'll find a molle holster for it instead, lol. Thanks.

[carbonfibreguy]

I've tried using my dropleg to hold my MAC 11 and it bugs the hell out of me, chest rigs are the way to go with SMG's.

I didn't think they'd get in the way, lol. Now, when I do get a TM USP AEP, I'll find a molle holster for it instead, lol. Thanks.

Or you can be cool and get one these, with one of these.

Thanks, but nah. I like AEPs, just cause I like don't like gas guns very much. Put it is avery good possibility in the future when someone makes a GBBR G36, I'll switch to gas entirely.

[carbonfibreguy]

Thanks, but nah. I like AEPs, just cause I like gas. Put it is avery good possibility in the future when someone makes a GBBR G36, I'll switch to gas entirely.

Ok, that part confuses me. You like gas guns, yet you don't a gas pistol?

LOL, that's why I edited my original post, lol. My bad.

I love the recoil and power a gas gun gets, but not having to carry around a huge gas container.

[carbonfibreguy]

I love the recoil and power a gas gun gets, but not having to carry around a huge gas container.

What guns do you need to carry around a gas container with?

If I do buy a KWA MP7, that, Madbull grenades, and a pistol. But, I want to save the space and weight, so that's why I'm carry electric alternatives. Obviously, there is no electric grenade, so I might consider buying a cheap claymore, found one on ehobby the other day for around $70.

[carbonfibreguy]

I love the recoil and power a gas gun gets, but not having to carry around a huge gas container.

What guns do you need to carry around a gas container with?

If I do buy a KWA MP7, that, Madbull grenades, and a pistol. But, I want to save the space and weight, so that's why I'm carry electric alternatives. Obviously, there is no electric grenade, so I might consider buying a cheap claymore, found one on ehobby the other day for around $70.

Drop the claymore, there's not use for them.....ever.

And what I'm saying is, with the current gas pistols and rifles, you're not carrying around a tank of air. This isn't like paintball. An electric USP will take up just as much room as an electric USP.

I meant more that you have to refill the mags with gas though, a minor inconvinience to me, but each to his own, I really want a GBBR but simply do not have the cash to buy the rig+GBB guns. One day though...

[carbonfibreguy]

I meant more that you have to refill the mags with gas though, a minor inconvinience to me, but each to his own, I really want a GBBR but simply do not have the cash to buy the rig+GBB guns. One day though...

Yeah, I'm not a fan of GBBRs. And depending on the pistol, you can get 2-3 mags out of one fill. If you need to fill up a pistol so much that it's even a minor inconvenience, you should probably use your primary more

What? Are you serious? I was always under the impression that you had to fill the mag every time you reload. Wow, now this makes me want to buy a TM MK23 now...