New ATACS pattern split

[1SGT.Reaper]

I feel like there is no real purpose for blue camo, I mean it looks cool but what is the function of looking cool. Camo is supposed to help you be concealed not stick out like a pig turd in a milk bucket. So i have no understanding of why the U.S Navy has a blue digital pattern, as it only blends in with the water and that would suck if you fell overboard wearing it at night. Although ATACs camo patterns are all really badass and you could probably make a cool urban load out with it.

[Airsoftee]

Speaking of new patterns, what do you guys think of krypteks pattern?

[Chowdberg]

Owning a jacket in the Ukranian TTsKO winter pattern (which is uber blue camouflage) I find myself in the position of think of it's uses.

I can GUESS that it has some practicality in a heavily snowed in environment. It depends on how much of the so called 'blue ice' you might experience, but, that is highly doubtful.
Now. I can see it more in for a practical use in urban operations, possibly even in night, if the coloration is right. This Urban ATACS stuff looks well suited for that kind of thing.

And I think it was aimed towards a Law Enforcement clientele when they released the stuff, too.

[Alien_Hunter]

Is it just me or is a lot of the new gear starting to become reminiscent of "Judge Dredd"?

[Welshy McSheeplove]

So i have no understanding of why the U.S Navy has a blue digital pattern

Because, pretty obviously, it's a utility uniform, so it is mainly designed to hide grease, stains, oil, and other shit that naturally will get on your uniform when you're underway on a bleeding ship. Since they replaced their BDUs and DCUs with the digital Type II and III uniforms, they said "shazaam it" and replaced the navy blue utilities with the digital pattern in blue/gray. If you think that NWU Type I was in any way meant to be an actual combat uniform, or function as camouflage in any way, you're most likely an idiot.

[Steve]

I'd actually guess it is more like the logic behind the original "urban" BDU pattern. It doesn't really blend in. Instead, it works to develop psychological advantages for the wearers and against their opponents. It's not really about hiding.

Wearing the same uniform fosters an esprit de corps. Folks who get all gussied up fancy-like tend to try to act the part. It's a self-confidence booster. Putting on the cammies tells the reptile hindbrain that it is go-time, and helps with mental alertness and preparation for violence of action.

For most of the scumbags that they are going to interact with, seeing a dozen guys looking all high-speed in matching gear is intimidating. Balaklavas and goggles have legitimate uses (that are generally encountered infrequently, and aren't generally mission-critical even when they are useful). Goggles randomly fog up, balaklavas are hot as shit and itch, and are generally a pain in the rear. But when a team is rocking them, it dehumanizes them in the eyes of their opponent by removing normal non-verbal communications clues. The giant dude with the rifle may be frowning, smiling, or slightly constipated. He may be focused entirely on your buddy, or watching you out of the corner of his eye. And since you don't know for sure, it's harder to get inside his decision loop. The body armor may be laying flat on six-pack abs, or firming up the beginning of a beer gut. It all fits together to make the wearers look like unstoppable interchangeable cogs in the machine that is coming to grind the bad guys into paste. And it's designed to convey that image.

[1SGT.Reaper]

If you think that NWU Type I was in any way meant to be an actual combat uniform, or function as camouflage in any way, you're most likely an idiot.

In response to this I would like to say that, A I am not an Idiot, B I was just posting my opinion on it I never said anything about the Navy making it a combat uniform. I was just wondering why they could justify spending tax dollars on a pattern that has no real application, other than apparently a utility uniform.

[The Murse]

Because, pretty obviously, it's a utility uniform, so it is mainly designed to hide grease, stains, oil, and other shit that naturally will get on your uniform when you're underway on a f***ing ship. Since they replaced their BDUs and DCUs with the digital Type II and III uniforms, they said "shazaam it" and replaced the navy blue utilities with the digital pattern in blue/gray. If you think that NWU Type I was in any way meant to be an actual combat uniform, or function as camouflage in any way, you're most likely an idiot.

Dude, cool down. You don't need to be a cocky jerk about it. He's just asking a question and before you say, "This is the internet! you wouldn't stand up for him in real life," Yes. I would. I hate when cocky people try and act all big. It's all good man. Just teach him.

[Welshy McSheeplove]

Dude, cool down. You don't need to be a cocky jerk about it. He's just asking a question and before you say, "This is the internet! you wouldn't stand up for him in real life," Yes. I would. I hate when cocky people try and act all big. It's all good man. Just teach him.

Ravioli ravioli, give me the formuloli.

[Chowdberg]

Ravioli ravioli, give me the formuloli.

All that accomplished was putting me in the mood for ravioli.

Nah. From what I constantly see, outside of the US, is that units that want to opt for an urban set usually avoid a 'blue uniform' and seem to go straight for black. Solid, straight black.

Norway's FSK runs black BDUs under tan kit when operating in 'urban environments'.


GROM seems to rock something similar (but correct me if this is an incorrect picture).


Along the lines with what Welshy said, utility over practicality takes key precedence when it came to the Navy BDUs. Does blue camouflage necessarily work? I'm not entire sure. There's more grey, brick red, and the occasional I'd figure when it comes to buildings. Black seems to be the general default of 'this works for some good reason'. I haven't had much experience with using straight black attire.

As for ATACs Urban? I'm not too much of a personal fan of the stuff, but hey, if you want to go out and build something along the uniform, have at it.

[Alien_Hunter]

So i have no understanding of why the U.S Navy has a blue digital pattern

Because, pretty obviously, it's a utility uniform, so it is mainly designed to hide grease, stains, oil, and other shit that naturally will get on your uniform when you're underway on a f***ing ship. Since they replaced their BDUs and DCUs with the digital Type II and III uniforms, they said "f**k it" and replaced the navy blue utilities with the digital pattern in blue/gray. If you think that NWU Type I was in any way meant to be an actual combat uniform, or function as camouflage in any way, you're most likely an idiot.

http://www.duffelblog.com/2012/08/navy-praises-blue-digital-uniforms-after-two-sailors-lost-at-sea/

[1SGT.Reaper]

Alien Hunter that link is awesome, I love what the reporter said. Why would you need to blend in on a big gray ship. Someone did their research

[Welshy McSheeplove]

Alien Hunter that link is awesome, I love what the reporter said. Why would you need to blend in on a big gray ship. Someone did their research

> Duffel Blog.


Oh my God you are so dumb, I can't even stand it.

[Orwell]

The Duffelblog is to military news as The Onion is to normal news, you asshat.

Look, Welshy is right.

[Snowman]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA I CAN'T EVEN

DID YOU REALLY JUST CITE THE DUFFELBLOG AS A LEGITIMATE INFORMATION SOURCE?