GBBRs and noobs like me

Discussion of GBB (gas blowback) replicas.

GBBRs and noobs like me

Postby Voodoo Man » Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:15 pm

After playing with a WE M4 not to long ago, I've started seriously contemplating selling or trading my stuff to acquire a GBBR M4 of some sort for a training platform. There are a few more options than I expected and I'm a total noob to the GBBR.

So what is the best starting GBBR (least after market parts to get it standing) and what makes them different? Inokatsu, G&P, WA, WE, KJW, and KSC all make GBBRs now and they all seem to be practically the same to me.
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Postby wurger » Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:06 pm

All of the GBBR's have their pros and cons. Of the makes you listed, (where most of my experience lies) WE has the lowest cost of entry, and can be made into a decent platform with a reasonable amount of work. I owned an original WE M4 (long gone) and a recent WE 416. I can say that there have been a lot of improvements since the guns came out.

You will need 5-6 mags, and, if you go WE, probably an RA-Tech NPAS and a Stinger hop-up. Realistically, you are looking at a start-up cost of at least $500 to get a mostly reliable, field ready gun.

At this point, my advice is to wait. KWA has their M4 GBB's at the ATF for approval, and upon approval (fingers crossed) their M4's with the NS2 system will warrant serious consideration. The catch is that you will probably need to spill at least $1000 to get a KWA GBB and sufficient mags to be competitive at most games.

If you can't wait, look at the KWA MP7. For around $500 you can get the GBB and 5 extra mags, and you won't need to do any upgrades on the gun. I'll shoot my MP7 over my WE 416 any day. It's lighter, easier to maneuver in the field, with nearly the range of the larger 416, and it's loud...everyone I've shot with mine has jumped when it goes off.

If KWA's NS2 M4 mags are as solid and reliable as their pistol mags, the greatest drawback to GBBR's, mag reliability issues, will likely be solved.

My 2 cents. That aside, you can't beat the G&P GBB's for external configuration options. If I hadn't heard constant complaints about the WA mags I would have at least 3 of the G&P GBB's.
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Postby Cap n pickles » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:19 pm

I am personally interested in going to a GBBR platform as well, the new SRC GBBR AK74u looks great.
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Postby Voodoo Man » Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:11 pm

Specifically I'm looking at M16/M4 systems. I just started shooting an AR and I'll need to use one in the military.
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Postby Snowman » Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:36 pm

Inokatsu Block II. Mmmmm....

I've heard that Inokatsu has the best externals, and that WE has the worth internals. Can someone confirm that?
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Postby KA-BAR » Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:00 pm

i have a WE M4 CQB M4 for sale dunworth. and i am on your team. you need look no further.
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Postby Aquosman99 » Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:41 am

I have a marushin m1 garand and a m14 GBBR basically heres the breakdown all depends on what you want and how much your willing to pay for such a fine replica. If you wanna check some out go to ehobyasia.com
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Postby Aquosman99 » Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:52 am

Snowman wrote:Inokatsu Block II. Mmmmm....

I've heard that Inokatsu has the best externals, and that WE has the worth internals. Can someone confirm that?


We has certainly stepped their game up with a new line up of guns.For instance the we m14 pretty much a real m14 but airsoft, it even fits a real steel stock and pretty sold internals and externals. Inokatsu does have the highest quality of gbbr's tho. Inokatsu i consider to make classic airsoft guns, they were around the time when ASAHI and Smokey's airsoft guns were still being made. We is the new Kid on the block basically which means there going to have there Does and Dont's.
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Postby Marauder » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:08 pm

Sorry for the necro post but I'm one of the restless souls in search of something more than a gun that feels and sounds like a sewing machine on crack.
GBBR's seem to be gaining a lot of popularity and I figure it's only a matter of time before there are gas versions of any major gun model that you may want. My question is how close do you guys think that vision is to coming over the horizon? The biggest GBBR I'm looking forward to is the drop in kit for the ACR but there's no ETA of any sort.
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Postby Aquosman99 » Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:23 am

You could buy a ksc m4 and buy some ra tech upgrade parts and like the guy said kwa is still trying to get approval with the ATF on a professional training rifle. They also are releasing a glock training platform pistol and a few other weapons like an airsof tokarev. You're best bet if you wanted one know would be either the KSC M4A1 or go with the Kwa one that is hopefully going to get ATF approval. If that doesn't happen you could also get a kjw m4 and you'd be good to go
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