TM Hi Capa vs. WE Hi Capa

Discussion of GBB (gas blowback) replicas.

TM Hi Capa vs. WE Hi Capa

Postby urbanninja » Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:47 pm

For a while now, I have heard how horrible WE hi capas are compared to TM Hi Caps. But I never fully understood why. Something to do with the hop up I heard? Can someone explain to me the main reasons why the TM Hi Capa is superior to the WE Hi Capa? Thanks
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Postby TechnoMagical » Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:50 am

IMO, I like the WE more (and yes, I've had both.)

My WE 3.8 gets great gas consumption, and fantastic range. The ONLY issues encountered were with a leaky magazine upon buying it (I like the longer hi-capa mags any) so I bought some Marui magazines. Later, after a few thousand rounds, the leaf spring bent and the hammer did not lock. It took maybe 5 minutes to fix. Since then, not a single issue, and it can take a beating.
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Postby CommieHunter » Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:15 pm

The TM is plastic, but it is constructed precisely and is very accurate.

The WE is metal and many of them (not all) use more gas than other brand guns do. The main issue that arises with the WE Hicapa, other than the gas consumption, is that the leaf spring can bend or pop out of place and the sear can eventually wear out. These problems are fixable, but some people don't like fixing them.

I also see a lot of broken air nozzles on WE Hicapa's compared to other pistols.
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Postby IrishAsasin » Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:45 pm

by the KJW hicapa. full TM clone with a metal body. you cant beat it. on sale for 115 with free shipping from evike right now.
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Postby CommieHunter » Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:38 pm

Uum, the WE Hicapa is also a full TM clone with a metal body.
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Postby 110 » Sun Jun 07, 2009 8:42 pm

I wouldn't say this for their AEG's, but go TM with the GBB. Best god damn pistol I had.

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Postby 83celwa » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:59 am

I am very fond of my KJW KP-05 High-Capa. Another nice thing is that you can easily order replacement parts directly from KJW for really cheap (not sure if other companies do the same thing). The only drawback is that it takes 1-2 weeks to get it in the mail.
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Postby IrishAsasin » Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:07 pm

i got mine today from evike in 3 days with normal ground shipping. very good gun though.

its heavy, realistic. all metal upper and fiberglass lower with a very good grip and nice looking trigger. the mag is thick and full metal as well. i got the black with the chrome accents because i thought it looked badass. i will have to pick up and extra mag for it for the next time i go to cqb, but the 30 round hicapa should be plenty for now.

the WE, i have heard some problems with, my friend's is ejecting a full mag of gas after 3-4 shots so we dont know what is happening there, he has taken it in and they say its fine and then even when others tried to use it they had the same problem. my gun has shown no problems so its really up to whoever is buying it but i would stick with the KJW
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Postby VogonFord » Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:36 pm

I love my WE. The thing hasn't failed me yet. I've had the mag releasing its gas as well, but only when I filled it up with too much gas (it was pretty shocking). I see nothing wrong with it. I have no experience with the TM one, but knowing TM I bet you won't be disappointed. It's probably more durable and better thought out internally (from what I've learned from my TM MP5 and what I hear about it). Really it comes down to whether you want some (possible) fixable internal issues with full metal or BAMF internals with plastic body. If you're willing to shove out lots of money for a pistol, get the metal body upgrades for a TM and then you'll be the ultimate pistolero, but that's a 500 dollar plus project.
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Postby IrishAsasin » Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:35 pm

TM makes an awesome desert eagle 8) you could always try that. looks much more BA and holds 25 rounds still.
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Postby liquidfx » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:03 am

VogonFord wrote:get the metal body upgrades for a TM and then you'll be the ultimate pistolero, but that's a 500 dollar plus project.



um how is that a $500 project for a TM HiCapa 4.3? The body on these is metal, and the only major pieces that I can tell for sure that is plastic (off the top of my head and from my desk at work) is the slide and outer barrel. The slide can be replaced with a metal version as well can the outer barrel. Slide will cost about $80 from www.airsoftgi.com (not sure about the outer barrel), however running with the plastic slide is pretty damn good in and of itself. The kick is pretty good and while not 100% realistic, it's close to some RS 1911's I have used.

As for the difference between the WE and TM. The plastic slide is the biggest issue that I can see. The metal slide on the WE gives a little more kick but the WE seems a bit less accurate at distance which is what I prefer to train at. The WE also does seem to be a bit more of a gas hog compared to the TM. I can always go through the full magazines in my TM's and still have a bit of gas to spare as compared to the WE where I run out of gas before bb's (usually about three left in the clip). I've also had a problem with one of the WE mags not feeding correctly though a little bit of silicone spray took care of that issue. The one thing I do like about the WE is that their mags seal better when filling with gas therefore not allowing gas to spray. This is due to the fill tube having an o-ring where the TM's do not. Minor annoyance.

Would I buy another TM HiCapa? Definitely. Would I buy another WE HiCapa? If the price was right (read: cheap and I wanted yet another).
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Postby VogonFord » Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:13 am

Okay, let's put up the bill.

TM Hi-Capa 5.1 - 189.00
Guarder barrel (blk) - 45.00
Guarder slide (STI) - 75.00

It's a little over 300 dollars. Anyway, those are the lowest priced upgrades, and I was referring to not the Guarder stuff but like the Shooter's Design or AirsoftSurgeon, which would easily jump it to 500 dollars. Even then, to get a full metal TM Hi-Capa you have to spend three times as much as you do for a WE. The simple thing is, if you want it to be a higher quality internal pistol, go TM. If you want metal, go WE. If you are willing to throw out the cash, go TM + metal upgrades.
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Postby Charon » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:59 am

I don't have the TM Hi-Capa, but I have two Wei-E Tech Hi-Capa GBBs (the Dragon II in silver which is a modified Hi-Capa 5.1, and a silver 3.8 ). Both guns are overall great and perform well, but are far from perfect. Here are the problems I've had with them.

- A few wobbling parts. On the Dragon II, the second part of the slide wobbles. Also the slide safety on the right side wobbles on both guns, same for the barrel.
- Mags leak, and I broke the plastic base by dropping one on grass. The plastic isn't the most sturdy.
- Uses a lot of gas, since the slides are heavy. Still better than plastic slides. The Dragon II doesn't use that much gas compared to a normal Wei-E Tech Hi-Capa 5.1, since it is a two piece slide and lighter. The WE Tech Hi-Capa 4.3 GBBs have aluminum slides.

Those are the only issues I've encountered with my WE Tech Hi-Capas. They are great performers, I use green gas.
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Postby Carnivor » Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:06 pm

IrishAsasin wrote:TM makes an awesome desert eagle 8) you could always try that. looks much more BA and holds 25 rounds still.


Dear God, no- Desert Eagles make me want to toss my cookies. They are an awful gun in real steel and when I see anyone carrying one, I can accurately put them into one of two categories:
a) They play too much COD4 or Counterstrike
b) They have a small hot dog and feel the need to make up for it by carrying a ridiculously and impractically oversized handgun.

Why do you think no real self-respecting military unit use them in the field (no, the IDF does not issue Desert Eagles- maybe a few once upon a time as an experiment, but not standardized)?
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Postby VogonFord » Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:57 pm

You forgot a category:

c.) You're Kendo.
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