Safety killing

[God]

I have a few questions on this.

1) Can you safety kill someone through a building just by sticking a gun through a hole and yelling Safety Kill? You CAN NOT see the kill.

TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, NOT IN ANY WAY RELATED

2) If you're storming a position like a building, and yelling safety kill would give your position away, can you shoot him? Because then all they'd say is "Hit", example "http://airsoftpacific.com/cms_view_article.php?aid=19"
2:40-3:00

Assuming you actually somehow got that close-

Thanks!

[KA-BAR]

I have a few questions on this.

1) Can you safety kill someone through a building just by sticking a gun through a hole and yelling Safety Kill? You CAN NOT see the kill.


no, this is called blind fireing and is extreamly unsafe.

[God]

OKAY, THANKS, what do you do if a kid tries to do that to you? This happened to me btw... I wanna know if he legitimately killed me. His gun was pointing nowhere near me-

Actually, to which question are you referring to..?

You spelled "firing" wrong and "extremely".

[KA-BAR]

id the offender and go get a admin. they deal with it....or they are suppose to.

[God]

I'm afraid the game technically had no admin. It was a 10-12 person game-

But should I have accepted that he safety killed me or just shot him back?

[KA-BAR]

game with no safety rules or admins.

those are you first 2 mistakes. sorry cant help you beyond that.

[God]

In other words, it's up to the player's decision- There were plenty of safety rules by the way...

[Wisenheimer]

In the same vein, yesterday at Boobies I saw an incident where there was a brief back and forth about a safety kill. Ultimately it was honored, but not until after the damage was done and the shooter got upset enough to leave the game. This was not 2 kids, this was 2 fully grown men, I will not state names.

I'm gonna harp on this for a moment.

Now, when a safety kill is called, shouldn't it just be honored, period? Like as in, without question? It seems to me that if one calls a safety kill, it's for damn good reason. SAFETY. Not for the safety of the shooter, but for the safety of the one who must take the hit. If the shooter has the sportsmanship and respect to call the safety kill, is it not disrespect to argue about it? Is it not poor sportsmanship?

In regards to the above incident, I heard later that it was friendly fire. I don't know about that, I was standing right there. Know what? DOES NOT MATTER. If someone has the respect to call a safety kill so as to not hurt you, have the respect to take the hit and go back to your spawn. TK's happen. Otherwise, the moment you open your mouth to argue about it, the situation degrades into a 12 year old's argument about who shot who with their stick in the backyard. That's bullshit, and seriously makes you sound like a complete cute kitty.

Let's all make a concerted effort not to be complete pussies.

If your going to post about the above incident because you were there to see it, please keep the names out. Otherwise, please only comment hypothetically. I'm not pointing fingers, who said what is not the issue. The issue is SAFETY KILLS.

Thank you.

[Jester316]

Safety kills are up to the person being safety killed. If you want to be shot, than try and shoot the other guy. Every time I safety kill someone, they have no idea I was there.

Ex: LOWII, I cleared the village by myself, entered the 2 story building. I noticed a leg sticking down from the upper level. I approached and placed my muzzle against the leg. I said call it or I'll shoot. He honored it. I moved 4 feet and repeated with his partner. Again, call it or I'll shoot, and he honored it. I was ready to pull the trigger if I had seen a barrel move my direction. I safety killed them so I didn't have to shoot them point blank.

Safety kills are to be used in a situation where it would be negligent to actually shoot someone.

[RBeran]

I have a few questions on this.

1) Can you safety kill someone through a building just by sticking a gun through a hole and yelling Safety Kill? You CAN NOT see the kill.

TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, NOT IN ANY WAY RELATED

2) If you're storming a position like a building, and yelling safety kill would give your position away, can you shoot him? Because then all they'd say is "Hit", example "http://airsoftpacific.com/cms_view_article.php?aid=19"
2:40-3:00

Assuming you actually somehow got that close-

Thanks!

You never, never, EVER blind fire into a building! EVER! Not live fire, not safety kill. Period. If you cannot see your intended target...guess what? YOU DON"T HAVE ONE!!! If you have no intended target you cannot safety kill him/her. Period.

Do not confuse safety with tactics. If you feel the need to yell "Safety Kill", it means you are concerned with , well...say it with me now, safety!! Right? If you are now concerned with safety, why would you worry about your position? Your position does not matter now... only safety. Get it?

[KA-BAR]

life is hard with a bolt action. thanks wiesnhimer...

[Wisenheimer]

Safety kills are up to the person being safety killed.

Seriously? I see that as a complete contradiction.

So, I have the drop on you and call safety out of your safety. And you think it's ok to turn on me and shoot? So my safety means nothing to you?

Do you really believe that, because if so I just lost every ounce of respect for you.

You may be playing Devil's advocate, or merely stating "how it is". I'm stating "how it is" is bullshit and needs to be changed. If you disagree with safety being more a priority than your K/D ratio, than you have some serious issues.

Textbook scenario all you want, safety trumps all. Period. End of story.

[Catch22]

SAFETY KILLS
When you are too close in range to be comfortable taking a shot, you can call out "SAFETY KILL" on the player in your sights. Any clean shots with no cover under 30 feet are good candidates for safety kills. Do not call it unless the kill is already a given. Always honor safety kills when they are called on you just like honoring a "HIT". Safety kills can only be called on one individual at a time, not on entire groups. "SAFETY KILL" must be said loudly, as to simulate actually firing. Silence can only be maintained if you can tag the other player out. You must be able to point your replica and call "SAFETY KILL" on every person if there is more than one.

[Wisenheimer]

SAFETY KILLS
When you are too close in range to be comfortable taking a shot, you can call out "SAFETY KILL" on the player in your sights.Any clean shots with no cover under 30 feet are good candidates for safety kills.

I do assume this paragraph is prioritized?

[Jester316]

Safety kills are up to the person being safety killed.

Seriously? I see that as a complete contradiction.

So, I have the drop on you and call safety out of your safety. And you think it's ok to turn on me and shoot? So my safety means nothing to you?

Do you really believe that, because if so I just lost every ounce of respect for you.

You may be playing Devil's advocate, or merely stating "how it is". I'm stating "how it is" is bullshit and needs to be changed. If you disagree with safety being more a priority than your K/D ratio, than you have some serious issues.

Textbook scenario all you want, safety trumps all. Period. End of story.

Wisenheimer: I honor most safety kills (unless they are absolute bullshit). I rarely see saftey kills used CORRECTLY. I love when someone calls safety kill from 50-60 feet away... Again, there are no rules stating that a safety kill MUST be honored. If you are properly executing a safety kill, and the person doesn't honor it, there should be no danger to you, as you have your gun pointing at the person. They start moving in any direction other than dead, and you shoot them. You gave them a chance, and they decided they liked their odds better.