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Safety kills

Postby loaf » Thu May 13, 2010 7:48 pm

so i looked through the forum on safety and didn't find any in depth things about a safety kill. so i was wondering if someone could clarify the safety kill rule for me, if you have to use it, and finally if an event can "turn it off" so to speak
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Postby Jester316 » Thu May 13, 2010 7:51 pm

A safety kill is a courtesy to a player so you don't have to shoot them. They usually have a specific range in which they are applicable set by the event host. Yes, you can "turn them off".
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Postby DMitri » Thu May 13, 2010 8:09 pm

Even if there aren't specific rules about calling (accepting) safety kills, you should always consider expressing them to players you have the drop on.

Last time I played at Scappoose (years ago) I was able to sneak up to the window of the western most building as we were preparing to attack the village. I noticed it wasn't occupied and stood up and scanned the village. Someone began to walk to my structure so I moved to the far side of the window and aimed at the door. The second he came through the door I just said, "Bang, you're dead" and the response I got was something to the effect of, "Jesus Christ, THANK YOU for not shooting me!"

I don't think anyone would have challenged me and that really stuck in my head. Most situations I've been in like that though have resulted in parlays because neither had the drop on the other or a clear shot.

In the past there have been addendum to the rule that you had to fire your replica to not only prove it was functional and loaded, but also to give away your position, don't know if those are still in effect.
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Postby Solid » Thu May 13, 2010 9:46 pm

Yeah, even if they aren't in effect, you should still follow them IMO, it just makes the game fun for everyone
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Postby loaf » Thu May 13, 2010 10:08 pm

thank you this topic can be locked by whomever locks it
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Postby KA-BAR » Thu May 13, 2010 10:53 pm

if i am holding a bolt action and i am ten feet from you. expect a safety kill.

if i have a assault rifle and i am ten feet from you. expect to walk to the deadpool bitching about getting shot from behind.
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Postby Cap n pickles » Thu May 13, 2010 11:36 pm

The only time i've ever needed to use a safety kill was at a skirmish at my Farm.

One of the Newblings kept poking his head out form a barricade that he had snuck up too, i felt bad for wanting to shot him right in the face while wearing safety glasses , so i called a safety kill.
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Postby Steve » Fri May 14, 2010 7:49 am

The ones I hate are knife kills.

Honestly, if someone sneaks up close to me with a rubber knife, and I notice it out o the corner of my eye, it breaks the 'airsoft' mentality and my first instinct is to bury my muzzle into the soft squishy spot under the sternum and start hitting kicking / clawing / biting / shooting them until they bleed out. It's certainly not intentional, but the instinct is absolutely there.

Unless there are rules in place to allow a knifee to fight off a knifor, they have no business on the field. And since most of us are not particularly interested in engaging in hand-to-hand combat on the airsoft field, my vote? Leave them at home, or in their sheathes on your gear.

And hearing about people throwing training knives at people and claiming it as a kill makes me laugh my a$$ off.
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Postby KA-BAR » Fri May 14, 2010 8:00 am

ill keep that in mind steve, nothing would please me more then to see you turn several shades of red after i stab you on the field.
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Postby Steve » Fri May 14, 2010 8:12 am

KA-BAR wrote:ill keep that in mind steve, nothing would please me more then to see you turn several shades of red after i stab you on the field.


lol. Put it somewhere vital and get out of arms-reach for the second or two it takes to choke down on reflex and I'll happily send you the therapy bill for my PTSD counselling after I've walked back to respawn. Stay in arms-reach, and your ER bills are your responsibility. 8)

All kidding aside, Morgan, playing "Knifey-Spooney" is probably a losing proposition when the knifey is rubber and the spooney is a Medieval-style flashhider. Thre are no winners on either side.
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Postby KA-BAR » Fri May 14, 2010 8:19 am

i can visualize the scene now....



the mist and fog are running low through the forest as uber leet steve aproaches his victem, they dont even know he is there, he is a ghost. the victem has no idea that they have seconds to live... steve kneels down to take cover behind a bush..... the bush reaches out with a rubber knife, and STAB!

me - "Gotcha steveie....AHAHAHHAHAHA!"



and a beautiful red glow fills the forest.


cool story huh bro?
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Postby Steve » Fri May 14, 2010 8:23 am

Sounds like an after school special in the making. Get some!

http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,102539,00.html
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Postby CommieHunter » Fri May 14, 2010 10:48 am

Safety kills are often misused in the current environment. If he's not surprised to hear your voice, it's not a safety kill.

If you sneak up behind someone and tap them with the muzzle of your gun, it's a safety kill. If they walk in front of your hiding spot and you say 'psst, you're dead', it's a safety kill.

If you reach your arm around the tree they're hiding behind and yell 'safety kill' that's not a safety kill. If you run past a barricade and yell 'safety kill safety kill safety kill' at the 3 guys there who knew you were coming, that's not a safety kill.
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Postby Beran » Fri May 14, 2010 10:58 am

Caffeine and Rage wrote:Safety kills are often misused in the current environment. If he's not surprised to hear your voice, it's not a safety kill.

If you sneak up behind someone and tap them with the muzzle of your gun, it's a safety kill. If they walk in front of your hiding spot and you say 'psst, you're dead', it's a safety kill.

If you reach your arm around the tree they're hiding behind and yell 'safety kill' that's not a safety kill. If you run past a barricade and yell 'safety kill safety kill safety kill' at the 3 guys there who knew you were coming, that's not a safety kill.


emphasized with boldface for truth. the safety kill mechanic is there to avoid having to shoot someone at close range, not wave your gun in someones direction and yell out "safety" for an easy kill. the only times i have ever safetied someone have been when they had no idea i was there and were right on top of my position, or when ive been close enough to be able to touch them.

usually when i safety kill someone i will hold my gun on their center mass for at least three or four seconds, so i know that if i had pulled the trigger they would be hit before calling it. if its anything farther than maybe twenty feet, i just aim for their gear and shoot on semiauto.
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Postby Rogue Reaper » Fri May 14, 2010 11:24 am

I have only called one safetykill as ling as I have played.

Crack house, I was in an uper window with my gun pointed down at the nogiin of another player, I yelled safety kill and he almost crapped himself.

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