Reusing BBs

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Postby Sleepy » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:44 am

And what about these biodegradable BBs I keep seeing? Whats the story on those? Should I be concerned about a bag of BBs going bad at the bottom of my range bag?
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Postby ilovenukes » Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:14 am

there are still some bio bb's in my backyard after a few weeks of rain.

if you keep them in a dry, cool environment nothing should go wrong. they are bio-degradable, but that doesn't mean they're made out of hemp or soy or something like that.
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Postby Beran » Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:29 pm

yeah ive never actually seen one degrade. they lay around on the ground for weeks and weeks, shiftless and lazy, until a combat boot unexpectedly smashes them into the dirt, never to be seen again.
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Postby Theairsoftdude » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:30 pm

Tyrant wrote:evil shinannigans

Wee little shenanagins.....

Anyway I think it is fine. I find if you reuse bb's in cheap springs it should be fine to...
And it takes sevral years for the Bio BB's to actually biodergrade because of the hard laminated coating on the outer surface. No you dont have to woory about BB's "going bad" unless you leave them outside for sevral years...
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Postby Pope_Alex_Kaeda_I » Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:01 pm

The Airsoftdude - can you do a favour for me?

If you are going to post things such as
Theairsoftdude wrote:Anyway I think it is fine. I find if you reuse bb's in cheap springs it should be fine too...
and it takes sevral years for the Bio BB's to actually biodergrade because of the hard laminated coating on the outer surface. No you dont have to worory about BB's "going bad" unless you leave them outside for sevral years...

can you cite them? I say this because of the following - you are 14 (as indicated by your profile), that means to the rest of us, that you were five or six when I started playing airsoft. There are a few other old-farts around here who have been playing for similar lengths of time - and I think we generally agree - you dont re-use bb's in guns that you give a shit about.

Now, if you read http://www.vsaf.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=181 (I am pretty darn sure that it is the internationally accepted study on biodegradable airsoft bb's), you're not going to find anything about any "laminated coating".

And if you ask me - I would never re-use a bb in an airsoft gun.

As to them "going bad" if you leave them outside. Are you familar with humidity and dirt? I dont want to jam up my rifle with dirty bb's, or leave water in my barrel to screw up my accuracy. I call that "going bad"
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Postby Theairsoftdude » Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:27 pm

alex_kaeda wrote:The Airsoftdude - can you do a favour for me?

If you are going to post things such as
Theairsoftdude wrote:Anyway I think it is fine. I find if you reuse bb's in cheap springs it should be fine too...
and it takes sevral years for the Bio BB's to actually biodergrade because of the hard laminated coating on the outer surface. No you dont have to worory about BB's "going bad" unless you leave them outside for sevral years...

can you cite them? I say this because of the following - you are 14 (as indicated by your profile), that means to the rest of us, that you were five or six when I started playing airsoft. There are a few other old-farts around here who have been playing for similar lengths of time - and I think we generally agree - you dont re-use bb's in guns that you give a shit about.

Now, if you read http://www.vsaf.se/forum/viewtopic.php?t=181 (I am pretty darn sure that it is the internationally accepted study on biodegradable airsoft bb's), you're not going to find anything about any "laminated coating".

And if you ask me - I would never re-use a bb in an airsoft gun.

As to them "going bad" if you leave them outside. Are you familar with humidity and dirt? I dont want to jam up my rifle with dirty bb's, or leave water in my barrel to screw up my accuracy. I call that "going bad"

I am 14 and I started airsoft 4 years ago. I dont know anything about A internationally accepted study on BB's. I just compared the outer coating on a KSC .2 to a biodegradeible shotgun pigeon. Also I did check my sources. Go to shortyusa.com (the internationally accepted airsoft website) click on bb's n gas' go to ksc biod .2 BBs. It states" highly polished. highly polished with what?
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If you are going to post things such as "can you cite them? I say this because of the following - you are 14 (as indicated by your profile), that means to the rest of us, that you were five or six when I started playing airsoft. There are a few other old-farts around here who have been playing for similar lengths of time - and I think we generally agree - you dont re-use bb's in guns that you give a shit about. "
Could you do A little resarch first? And not attack every single statment that you read on the internet? Everyone here is trying to provide the airsoft community the best information possible. If you care so much about cheap springers then why dont you conduct a internationally accepted study on them? Also did I ever say to leave your bb's outside? no. i simly said it would take a while even outside for them to biodegrade. you took somthing way to litterally.
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Postby Knuckles » Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:48 pm

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Postby Pope_Alex_Kaeda_I » Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:56 pm

Theairsoftdude wrote:I am 14 and I started airsoft 4 years ago. I dont know anything about A internationally accepted study on BB's.
Photoshop makes me beautiful - Google makes me clever. Before posting, I did some research. See, I've been around long enough to know that "every newb has been playing for 2-4 years", and long enough to know that if I am going to make a claim, I am going to need to be able to back it up.

Theairsoftdude wrote:I just compared the outer coating on a KSC .2 to a biodegradeible shotgun pigeon. Also I did check my sources. Go to shortyusa.com (the internationally accepted airsoft website) click on bb's n gas' go to ksc biod .2 BBs. It states" highly polished. highly polished with what?
a "polish" and a "laminate" are two very different things.

Lets put it this way - have you ever polished a rock? You get a tumbler, pour in water, a grit , and the rocks that you wish to polish.. Turn it on and go have a smoke break - a really long smoke break. When its done, you turn the tumbler off, wash the grit off and viola - polished stones.
for more information about polishing, you can read http://oror.essortment.com/polishingtumbli_mya.htm

Dictionary.com - 'Laminate' wrote:laminate

n : a sheet of material made by bonding two or more sheets or layers v 1: create laminate by putting together several thin sheets of a material 2: press or beat (metals) into thin sheets 3: cover with a thin sheet; "laminate the table" 4: split (wood) into thin sheets


So, to ensure that there is no ambiguity - Polishing does not require adding any material. There are polishes for things such as boots, furniture, and other items - and there are polishing processes for things such as bb's that do not require adding any polishing agents.

I would hardly call Shortyusa 'the internationally accepted airsoft website" - it is a US based retailer that carrys mostly low-quality equipment.


Theairsoftdude wrote:"alex_kaeda- can you do a favour for me?
If you are going to post things such as "can you cite them? I say this because of the following - you are 14 (as indicated by your profile), that means to the rest of us, that you were five or six when I started playing airsoft. There are a few other old-farts around here who have been playing for similar lengths of time - and I think we generally agree - you dont re-use bb's in guns that you give a shit about. "
Could you do A little resarch first? And not attack every single statment that you read on the internet? Everyone here is trying to provide the airsoft community the best information possible.
Go ahead, try to justify what you just said. How are you trying to provide the airsoft community with the best information possible - when you are spreading disinformation?
That is precisely why I asked you to cite your sources. If you can not provide a citation, then your information is suspect.

Theairsoftdude wrote: If you care so much about cheap springers then why dont you conduct a internationally accepted study on them? Also did I ever say to leave your bb's outside? no. i simly said it would take a while even outside for them to biodegrade. you took somthing way to litterally.
I personally HATE cheap springers. It is cheap springers that bring cheesedicks like you into airsoft, cheesedicks who drag down the average.

I did not take something way to litterally - I corrected what you said. It is called debunking the disinformation that you are spreading.
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Postby MetraDirty » Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:56 am

Airsoftdude, don't even think about hitting that submit button. :lol:
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Postby Knuckles » Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:55 am

:snap:
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Postby Theairsoftdude » Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:58 am

Yeah he has me there :D , and I was just joking about the shortyusa thing.
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Postby Nocte » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:03 am

Everyone's always 'just joking' after the Sledgehammer of Fallacy smashes their face in.
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Postby Skywalker » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:37 am

Nocte wrote:Everyone's always 'just joking' after the Sledgehammer of Fallacy smashes their face in.


:lol: Yup, he's just trying to recover, which of course will never happen.
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Postby Knuckles » Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:43 pm

Theairsoftdude wrote:Yeah he has me there :D , and I was just joking about the shortyusa thing.

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Postby Matt » Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:58 pm

Reusing BBs is bad, m'kay?
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